Wikimon:Community Portal Archive/4
Expressing concerns about mobile usability[edit]
Hi there. I noticed that this wiki has no mobile skin for mobile functionality. Do you plan on implementing a skin like Timeless or Minerva Neue for mobile users? There's plenty of wikis that I've come from (I arrived via NIWA from Nookipedia) that have a mobile skin to enable easier reading for users on mobile phones, but this wiki in particular has lacked it for years, worse by the fact that this is one of the oldest Digimon wikis, indepedently operated, but there is no skin for the mobile users.
It is understandable if whatever means has to result in templates being fixed for the mobile skin to function, but I would love to know why this wiki hasn't done so already and if there are plans to do so. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 18:58, 9 April 2021 (CDT)
- works fine for me on mobile.Muur (talk) 22:56, 9 April 2021 (CDT)
- I guess, but I think having some sort of friendly interface for mobile users could also benefit. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 04:11, 10 April 2021 (CDT)
Wiki Affiliation Request[edit]
Hello, I'm the owner of https://jojowiki.com.
Would you like to affiliate with us?
I'd appreciate it if you could add us to your sidebar and I'll do the same for Wikimon.
Thanks! Vish (talk) 00:59, 8 April 2021 (CDT)
- I've contacted Koroku about it. --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 06:18, 8 April 2021 (CDT)
- Thanks, I added this site to my sidebar now. --Vish (talk) 19:20, 8 April 2021 (CDT)
- Since Jojo's Bizarre Encyclopedia has linked up to this wiki, has Koroku known about the affiliation and if so why hasn't it been featured on the affiliation tab and the affiliate page? -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 17:37, 21 April 2021 (CDT)
- Thanks, I added this site to my sidebar now. --Vish (talk) 19:20, 8 April 2021 (CDT)
Social Medias[edit]
Obviously I don't have the time to keep up with the social medias. Anyone interested in taking them over for me?
15th anniversary[edit]
With 12 days to go, what should we do for Wikimon's 15th anniversary? --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 17:04, 4 December 2020 (CST)
Hacked?[edit]
A user on Twitter (@Majora__Z) mentioned that they got redirected to a spam survey site (proasdf) when redirecting to google search from Wikimon. Is anyone else experiencing similar problems? --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 06:39, 19 November 2020 (CST)
Search Bar Protruding[edit]
I've noticed on several computers, the search bar sticks out too far. On at least one, it sticks out so far it covers part of the main part of the page, obscuring text. Has anyone else had this issue? I assume something more technical than what a mere wiki editor could do would have to be changed, but I would really appreciate a fix eventually! --TribalChupacabra (talk) 11:05, 14 June 2020 (CDT)
Digimon Card Game Evolutions[edit]
I've seen cases like Petermon updated to include evolutions from the 2020 Digimon Card Game, but this is problematic. The new card game does not have traditional evolution requirements, instead allowing anything to evolve into anything as long as the colors match. Rather than list specific Digimon, I feel it would be better to state something simpler like "Any Green Child Digimon from the Digimon Card Game", or if anyone else has better wording ideas there, I'm open to ideas. If we don't do this, then the evolution sections will basically become more and more useless as more releases of the card game come out. --Humulos (talk) 07:39, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- I agree that I don't think individual Digimon should be listed as DCG evolutions, but in this case I'm wondering if a separate page listing which Digimon have appeared in the DCG as which colours/Lv. could help, so that it's easier to look up "Any Green Child Digimon from the Digimon Card Game" for instance. It's not hard to look up now since there are so few sets, but it might be worth compiling a list for reference if we go through with this? (edit: also "Any Green Lv.3 Digimon from the Digimon Card Game" might be more safe, we don't know if they might release non-Child/non-level Digimon as Lv.3 in the future for example)--Garmmon (talk) 10:16, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- This reminds me of the evolution requirements for the Battle Spirits TCG that are the same and are still included. My two cents would be waiting to see how many releases this card game will have (maybe there are not that much due to the current situation) and temporarily only include Digimon evolutions from the same set, unlike Battle Spirits that were all included regardless the set and it felt a little bit nonsensical imo. Which means, unless a card of Petermon appears again in a future set, stick only with evos that are already included, since those were the ones that the designers had in mind when designing each set. This way we can keep the effect without going overboard. What do you guys think? -Shadow Shinji (talk) 10:22, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- As someone who was always iffy on the idea of listing every non-specified evolution, I like Garmmon's idea. I think that the best solution would be to list a "certain Digimon" type of thing, and have that line link to a page listing which Digimon are included in that. So, we have a new page listing what every Digimon in Battle Spirits or the Digimon Card Game can evolve to and from (may as well make a page for the Digimon World: Digital Card duology as well). The "certain Digimon" link on Petermon's own page would link to the section of the new page devoted to Petermon, and so on. That way we can still list every evolution without expanding the lists on the Digimon's pages to unmanageable lengths. --TMS (talk) 13:43, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- evolutions are evolutionsMuur (talk) 12:58, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- Muur, if it'll take some of the sting off, I'm thinking that I'll make the necessary changes myself. But, to be honest, I told you that I was dubious about listing non-specified evolutions. I'll get to work on creating the new pages here in a moment. --TMS (talk) 14:05, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- Good discourse, I like a lot of these ideas that were presented! I definitely agree with having separate pages to provide more detail, so that we can still have the same information without making the Evolution section too bloated. --Humulos (talk) 13:14, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- The page for the Digimon Card Game evolutions has been made. I'm going to take a break now, but eventually I'll get around to editing the Digimon pages so that they link to the appropriate place in the list. Naturally, anyone is welcome to help with that if they feel like it. I still need to make pages for the Battle Spirits and Digital Card Battle/Arena evolutions. --TMS (talk) 16:44, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- Woah that page is looking good TMS. Thanks a lot. I think it could be also a great idea to have another one for the multiple Jogress of the Digimon Pendulum 20th I'm rearranging currently. Anyways I have to agree with Muur in the sense that, let's take Petermon as an example, casual fans who visit the wikia will likely wanna know what are his possible previous forms & further evolutions, and if for instance Petermon can evolve to Sirenmon in this game, I think some people will like to know that info. So I'm not sure how to merge both ideas to make it legible enough. -Shadow Shinji (talk) 18:06, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- Well, it seems to me that our options are, (a) to list every single possible evolution on a Digimon's page (which I suppose would also include those item evolutions where, like, any Digimon in a v-pet can use an item to evolve directly to Omegamon), (b) leave out non-specific evolutions entirely, or (c) compromise with pages like the one I created earlier. I think that the last option is best. If the goal is to save space, then it wouldn't do us much good to list Sirenmon (and everyone else) on Petermon's page, but with links to other pages we can keep the Digimon pages manageable and still have all the information. One thing we need to figure out is how to cite these evolutions. I think it would be better to cite them on the page dedicated to evolutions than on the Digimon pages, but I'd like to hear other opinions on that. --TMS (talk) 21:24, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- I mean they should still be sourced because if theyre not, people will start ninja editing unsourced stuff in. The way I did it was that say Agumon for example, Agumon's card was used as the source for the Baby evolutions (koromon, pyocomon, and babydmon) as its the agumon card that has those evo) and then the champion cards (greymon, birdramon etc) as sources for the champion evos. So it was koromon (agumons card refs) greymon (greymons card refs). anyway if we're doing this, then I think we need to do the same for next order/international in regards to the numemon, geremon, scumon, and platinum scumon because the first three is ALL rookies from DWNO (which is like 80 of them), and platinumscumon is all champion and perfect digimon (and his page doesnt even list the perfects in the first place). if youre worried about these cards - next order poop digimon is a LOT more criminal in this regard. like, geremon's page is basically just all the rookie from next order. also tbh I thought your page would just be similar to my user page (ive already got the sources listed there for baby, rookie, and champion) where it would say "red baby" then you list the red babies, "green rookie" and you list the green rookies. that would be a lot less time consuming, as you can link to the specific section (eg, from koromon youd link to the "red rookie" section, instead of the "koromon" section). also yes, what shinji said. people use wikimon to see all evos. if they went to tinkermon and there was nothing listed, even tho she's technically got these new card game evos, then people will be confused.Muur (talk) 21:00, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- I've made an edit on Agumon to show what I mean. [https://wikimon.net/User:Muur copypaste from my user page for rookie and champion)Muur (talk) 21:05, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- I agree that the current format can become tedious to update/refer especially when more new sets are released. As Muur mentioned, I was thinking of creating a page with sections by colour/level (so Red Lv.3, Red Lv.4, etc), and on a Digimon's page, you can just have "Any Red Lv.3 Digimon from the Digimon Card Game" link to the Red Lv.3 section on the page, so someone can refer to the list. And we'd only have to add new DCG Digimon once to that one list, instead of to every Digimon's evolutions. And as stated above, I personally think writing "Red Lv.3" instead of "Red Child" is safer in case they release non-Child/non-level Digimon as Lv.3 in the future. --Garmmon (talk) 21:08, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- I've made an edit on Agumon to show what I mean. [https://wikimon.net/User:Muur copypaste from my user page for rookie and champion)Muur (talk) 21:05, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- I mean they should still be sourced because if theyre not, people will start ninja editing unsourced stuff in. The way I did it was that say Agumon for example, Agumon's card was used as the source for the Baby evolutions (koromon, pyocomon, and babydmon) as its the agumon card that has those evo) and then the champion cards (greymon, birdramon etc) as sources for the champion evos. So it was koromon (agumons card refs) greymon (greymons card refs). anyway if we're doing this, then I think we need to do the same for next order/international in regards to the numemon, geremon, scumon, and platinum scumon because the first three is ALL rookies from DWNO (which is like 80 of them), and platinumscumon is all champion and perfect digimon (and his page doesnt even list the perfects in the first place). if youre worried about these cards - next order poop digimon is a LOT more criminal in this regard. like, geremon's page is basically just all the rookie from next order. also tbh I thought your page would just be similar to my user page (ive already got the sources listed there for baby, rookie, and champion) where it would say "red baby" then you list the red babies, "green rookie" and you list the green rookies. that would be a lot less time consuming, as you can link to the specific section (eg, from koromon youd link to the "red rookie" section, instead of the "koromon" section). also yes, what shinji said. people use wikimon to see all evos. if they went to tinkermon and there was nothing listed, even tho she's technically got these new card game evos, then people will be confused.Muur (talk) 21:00, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- Well, it seems to me that our options are, (a) to list every single possible evolution on a Digimon's page (which I suppose would also include those item evolutions where, like, any Digimon in a v-pet can use an item to evolve directly to Omegamon), (b) leave out non-specific evolutions entirely, or (c) compromise with pages like the one I created earlier. I think that the last option is best. If the goal is to save space, then it wouldn't do us much good to list Sirenmon (and everyone else) on Petermon's page, but with links to other pages we can keep the Digimon pages manageable and still have all the information. One thing we need to figure out is how to cite these evolutions. I think it would be better to cite them on the page dedicated to evolutions than on the Digimon pages, but I'd like to hear other opinions on that. --TMS (talk) 21:24, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- Woah that page is looking good TMS. Thanks a lot. I think it could be also a great idea to have another one for the multiple Jogress of the Digimon Pendulum 20th I'm rearranging currently. Anyways I have to agree with Muur in the sense that, let's take Petermon as an example, casual fans who visit the wikia will likely wanna know what are his possible previous forms & further evolutions, and if for instance Petermon can evolve to Sirenmon in this game, I think some people will like to know that info. So I'm not sure how to merge both ideas to make it legible enough. -Shadow Shinji (talk) 18:06, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- The page for the Digimon Card Game evolutions has been made. I'm going to take a break now, but eventually I'll get around to editing the Digimon pages so that they link to the appropriate place in the list. Naturally, anyone is welcome to help with that if they feel like it. I still need to make pages for the Battle Spirits and Digital Card Battle/Arena evolutions. --TMS (talk) 16:44, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- Good discourse, I like a lot of these ideas that were presented! I definitely agree with having separate pages to provide more detail, so that we can still have the same information without making the Evolution section too bloated. --Humulos (talk) 13:14, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- Muur, if it'll take some of the sting off, I'm thinking that I'll make the necessary changes myself. But, to be honest, I told you that I was dubious about listing non-specified evolutions. I'll get to work on creating the new pages here in a moment. --TMS (talk) 14:05, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- evolutions are evolutionsMuur (talk) 12:58, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- As someone who was always iffy on the idea of listing every non-specified evolution, I like Garmmon's idea. I think that the best solution would be to list a "certain Digimon" type of thing, and have that line link to a page listing which Digimon are included in that. So, we have a new page listing what every Digimon in Battle Spirits or the Digimon Card Game can evolve to and from (may as well make a page for the Digimon World: Digital Card duology as well). The "certain Digimon" link on Petermon's own page would link to the section of the new page devoted to Petermon, and so on. That way we can still list every evolution without expanding the lists on the Digimon's pages to unmanageable lengths. --TMS (talk) 13:43, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- This reminds me of the evolution requirements for the Battle Spirits TCG that are the same and are still included. My two cents would be waiting to see how many releases this card game will have (maybe there are not that much due to the current situation) and temporarily only include Digimon evolutions from the same set, unlike Battle Spirits that were all included regardless the set and it felt a little bit nonsensical imo. Which means, unless a card of Petermon appears again in a future set, stick only with evos that are already included, since those were the ones that the designers had in mind when designing each set. This way we can keep the effect without going overboard. What do you guys think? -Shadow Shinji (talk) 10:22, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
- (Backing up a bit so we're less squished.) If you guys think it best, then we can do it that way. I did it the way I had it just to mimic the format of the individual Digimon pages. --TMS (talk) 22:11, 15 May 2020 (EST)
- Yeah doing it that way would take it take say... an hour at most when a new set comes out to add the new links. like you just go to sistermon blanc and put a link directed towards "lv2 yellow digimon" and "lv4 yellow digimon", and you can do that for all yellow rookie cards. if it gets to the point where they have 500 yellow rookie cards, that would take foooorever to update, compared to the quicker edit of linking to a list of yellow rookies. on sistermons page you would put "lv2 yellow"(sistermon card ref note). whilst if you have what you made there, youd have to add sistermon to all the babies, and then all the champions, and that would make each card alone take a long time. it took me three hours to do all the rookies we currently have yesterday, and that was just ONE set/the starter set.Muur (talk) 21:16, 15 May 2020 (CDT)
I've just rolled back some edits made by Shadow Shinji concerning the Battle Spirits evolutions. I'd prefer to do those myself, in a manner similar to how I did the Digimon Card Game and Digital Card Battle/Arena evolutions. I've held off so far because Battle Spirits will be a little more complicated than those were. I'd also like to do something along those lines with all the myriad Pendulum Jogresses, but I'd like input from people who are more familiar with how the v-pets work as to how best to go about it. --TMS (talk) 12:39, 24 May 2020 (EST)
- I thought it's basically the same mechanics as the Card Game afaik, plus some multicolor cards like Meicoomon, Zubamon, Meicrackmon or Chimairamon. About the Pendulum Jogresses, I would personally go the same as the cases you have mentioned. The Jogress result as the main title and underneath the Main Base Digimon + all the possible Jogress components, all classified by each Attribute (Vaccine, Data, Virus, Free). Eg.
- =Virus=
- ==MegaloGrowmon==
- Arresterdramon (with either Gekomon, Kuwagamon, Octmon, Gesomon, Devimon, Bakemon, Dokugumon, Woodmon, Red Vegimon, Guardromon, Mechanorimon, Porcupamon, Growmon, Targetmon, Coredramon (Green), Devidramon, Numemon, Vegimon, Orgemon, Scumon, Nanimon, Dark Tyranomon, Cyclomon, Flymon, Deltamon, or Raremon)
- Reppamon (with either Gekomon, Kuwagamon, Octmon, Gesomon, Devimon, Bakemon, Dokugumon, Woodmon, Red Vegimon, Guardromon, Mechanorimon, Porcupamon, Growmon, Targetmon, Coredramon (Green), Devidramon, Numemon, Vegimon, Orgemon, Scumon, Nanimon, Dark Tyranomon, Cyclomon, Flymon, Deltamon, or Raremon)
- That's the list of "Virus Adult" component Digimon.
- I can send you all the available lists if needed (Vaccine Adult, Data Adult, Virus Adult, Free Adult, Vaccine Perfect, Data Perfect, Virus Perfect, Free Perfect). You have all the Jogress information in the Humulos page here. Hope it helps. -Shadow Shinji (talk) 04:00, 25 June 2020 (CDT)
I'd like to come back to this issue, as we seem to be having the same problem again with cards that use multiple digimon to evolve. --Lammermon (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2022 (CDT)
Transition to Higher Quality Images[edit]
Since the official Digimon Bandai Twitter is systematically releasing high quality Digimon images, should we transition over to those instead of sticking with the Reference Book's standard 320x320px ones? --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 20:50, 18 December 2019 (CST)
- I think that would be good, for Digimon where higher quality Bandai images are available. --TMS (talk) 19:00, 19 December 2019 (EST)
- I agree. The larger artwork displays a lot of details more clearly I'm sure many users would appreciate, myself included. TribalChupacabra (talk) 22:37, 26 December 2019 (CST)
Playable Digimon Details[edit]
In the Video Games and Virtual Pets sections of some Digimon's pages, I'm noticing a lot of clutter detailing the stats, evolution requirements, etc. of Digimon that are raisable in certain titles. Case in point, Megadramon. I was wondering, would it be possible to put information pertaining specifically to their gameplay functions behind a tab or a show/hide button? Meanwhile, the readily displayed information could be reserved for describing any story roles they played or any NPC roles they might've had. --Yamato-san (talk) 16:49, 17 November 2019 (CST)
- I mean, for most Digimon that's like 90% of what there is to say about them. Almost makes more sense for the story roles to be the tabbed bit.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 08:55, 19 December 2019 (CST)
- Personally, I'd think it's enough just to show that a Digimon appeared in a certain game at all. It just looks like a complete mess when the page defaults to showing all this highly detailed information that could practically warrant a page all its own (again, the Megadramon page, especially how in-depth it goes under the Digimon World section). Though, I wouldn't mind tabbing both story roles and in-game stats, just anything to clean it up better.Yamato-san (talk)
Banner Update Requests?[edit]
Sorry for the sluggishness lately! Been obscenely busy with work for... forever. But I've got a lot of time off at the moment so working on some updated art for the top banner (considering most of it is from 2009-2012). Any preferences for character inclusion? --devkyu (talk) 19:30, 23 April 2018 (CDT)
- Hello, I don't know if I'm formatting this right so sorry in advance perhaps. I'm a big fan of Wikimon basically and if I could I'd like to help out with the banner/theme. I made a (very)rough version of my concept for the banner, that if you guys like I could potentially finish up.
- I based the logo off of the Digimon Adventure 20th Anniversary branding and the background off of the Tri posters(specifically Reunion), I chose to use the V-Pet era Wizarmon and Tailmon artwork from the Pendulum artbook mostly because I like that style and think it's quite representative of the franchise. Wizarmon I chose because he carries a book of forbidden knowledge which I felt was apt for a wiki and Tailmon because that particular illustration plays off the idea of cats and curiosity which I think is also fitting. If official artwork is not allowed, I can also draw my own but my tablet setup isn't great and I tend to be too much of perfectionist to complete work in a timely manner anyway. Thanks for reading anyway.
Categories not working?[edit]
I realized that some Digimon, even having the categories in their pages, are not appearing in the respective list of that category. That's happening specifically in the most recent pages (from 2018 and 2019). For exemple, Renamon X-Antibody have the "Child Level" category on its page, but when you click on it and see the list, it does not appear there. Same for other recent pages, like Blucomon or Lucemon X-Antibody. --rukasustorm(talk)
Twitter feed updates[edit]
As it's approaching a year since it was last updated, it would be worth having additional people who are willing to regularly tweet with the latest Digimon news (inside/outside of Japan). Any thoughts? --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 15:10, 31 March 2018 (CDT)
- Uh... who is running the Twitter right now? The "wikimon_news" one to be specific. Is it any of the other Admins or is it an imposter?--devkyu (talk) 19:14, 17 September 2019 (CDT)
Digital Monster Ver. S descriptions[edit]
Hi there! I have the descriptions of the Digimons that appear on the game Digital Monster Ver. S, but I noticed that the descriptions are pretty similar to ones that already exist, so my question is... Is it worth it to put them here? For example, the description of Agumon in the game is:
2本足で歩けるようになったデジモン。まだ成長とちゅうなので力も弱いが、かなりどうもうで恐いもの知らず。必殺技は火炎の息をはく「ベビーフレイム」
Translation: This Digimon began to walk with 2 legs. It is still growing, so it is weak, and doesn't know anything scary yet. Its special move “Baby Flame” is to exhale a breath of flame.
But the Virtual Pets - Digital Monster description is the following:
成長して二足歩行ができるようになった、は虫類型デジモン。まだまだ成長途中なので力も弱いが、性格はかなりどうもうで恐い物知らず。口から火炎の息『ベビーフレイム』をはき敵を攻撃する。
Translation: A Reptile Digimon which has grown and become able to walk on two legs. Its strength is weak as it is still in the process of growing, but it has a fearless and rather ferocious personality. It spits a fiery breath from its mouth to attack the opponent (Baby Flame).
As you see, the Kanas are different, but they say the same thing, so that's why I'm asking :/
--Akfly (talk) 13:44, 11 January 2018 (CDT)
New user, suggestions[edit]
Hi, everyone, I'm a new user of this wiki and 've been thinking on some suggestions, that hope you can read them. In a Digimon page, should we put all Digimon it evolves from and into, into a table that has some pictures and a name below them? It makes it easier for users to access and recognize Digimon rather than clicking on the link to see what's the Digimon. Hopefully you hear my suggestions, have a nice day
FireSalamence (talk)
IPA[edit]
I just noticed some Digimon pages have IPA pronunciations, but what are these actually supposed to be based on? The pronunciation of the name in Japanese, or the way we would imagine an English speaker to pronounce it? (and also whether a US or UK speaker, since i think the 'o' in 'mon' would be represented differently in both varieties) If it's a source of confusion I think we could just leave it out altogether, since IPA for Japanese can mostly be easily predicted from the kana, and I think doing IPA for English is tough especially when there aren't 'official' pronunciations for most Digimon and different speaker interpretations may arise? --Garmmon (talk) 09:42, 26 October 2017 (CDT)
- Agreed. It's more or less redundant in the newer Digimon pages; I almost forgot that that parameter existed. --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 11:39, 26 October 2017 (CDT)
Battle Spirits cards[edit]
The Battle Spirits wiki has the card effects translated already, and since it's part of the battle spirits game anyway I don't think the cards need to be covered again in full here? Should the card pictures just go under the respective Digimon's image gallery or should they be incorporated into the TCG template? (Each card does have a short blurb, though they're also mostly reused info like other card blurbs) --Garmmon (talk) 10:12, 22 August 2017 (CDT)
- I didn't know those cards even existed until now. It probably might be worth incorporating into the TCG template. --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 02:50, 23 August 2017 (CDT)
Series/game/etc. codes[edit]
Is there a page anywhere listing all such codes. I'm having trouble with a particular one, Digimon World -next 0rder-. Should it be DWn0? DWN0? DWNO? ...Something else? THB (talk) 09:58, 20 May 2017 (CDT)
- There needs to be page. As for Digimon World -next 0rder-, I'd go with DWn0. Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 10:05, 20 May 2017 (CDT)
Card game alpha images[edit]
When doing up the alpha/BT cards this was something I ran into that I'm not sure how to tackle; a lot of alpha/BT cards got rereleased in other sets and so they have different pictures, and some (like DM-072) even change stats/abilities in different releases. Ideally I'd like to record each release, so I was thinking maybe something like tabs showing pics from different releases (though that may not be so important since some alpha/BT card images aren't easy to find). But then there's the TCG template on the Digimon pages too and I'm not sure how we should incorporate it there, if we should even incorporate it or just stick to doing the most updated release for each card? --Garmmon (talk) 01:14, 1 May 2017 (CDT)
Spring Cleaning[edit]
Hey y'all. Could we possibly push for a bit of a "spring clean" of the wiki over the next few months? Mainly get rid of the big "in progress"/eyesores that are here and there and everywhere. Here are a couple on my mind
- Clean up Community Portal (I did, moved a bunch into the archive)
- Clean up OpenTalk (look above - some of those haven't been commented on since like 2014)
- Finish the navigation tabs on the Main Page - for a newer visitor/user, it looks silly to have half of them saying "Coming Soon"
- Refresh the look - User:Devkyu and User:dkpat???
- Finish Wikimon:Rules which has been under construction for the past 12 years :P
- Try and form some interwiki connections to help further our growth.
Image Gallery Tabs[edit]
I'd been thinking of implementing tabs for the image galleries on Digimon pages to organise them better, as seen here: User:Garmmon/Sandbox4 (bottom of the page), but I just wanted to see if anyone has any opinions on it before trying to go ahead with it. As for the v-pet graphics, I'm not sure whether to include them with the image gallery, or in seperate templates (what I had in mind was User:Garmmon/Sandbox3, near the bottom of the page). --Garmmon (talk) 15:51, 18 March 2017 (CDT)
- Looks great so far. --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 10:34, 24 March 2017 (CDT)
- Thanks! I've run into a few problems I couldn't figure out though, if it's not too much trouble would you mind taking a look? The table seems to cause the headers below to get shortened (like on Garudamon's page), and the tabs seem to have this gap sometimes (User:Garmmon/Sandbox4, the bottom table's collector/crusader tab), unless there's a way to remove the border somehow. Thank you! --Garmmon (talk) 02:10, 25 March 2017 (CDT)
- I've created Template:IGTabs2 (temporarily) as a test which works, but it involves using extra parameters though. Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 11:22, 3 April 2017 (CDT)
- Thanks so much for the help always! I'll try it out when I get around to organising the pics! --Garmmon (talk) 11:55, 5 April 2017 (CDT)
- I've created Template:IGTabs2 (temporarily) as a test which works, but it involves using extra parameters though. Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 11:22, 3 April 2017 (CDT)
- Thanks! I've run into a few problems I couldn't figure out though, if it's not too much trouble would you mind taking a look? The table seems to cause the headers below to get shortened (like on Garudamon's page), and the tabs seem to have this gap sometimes (User:Garmmon/Sandbox4, the bottom table's collector/crusader tab), unless there's a way to remove the border somehow. Thank you! --Garmmon (talk) 02:10, 25 March 2017 (CDT)
Server migration issues[edit]
Just a general topic for issues regarding the recent server migration - feel free to add other issues. Apparently pages (inc. templates) that contain characters besides those from the 26-letter latin alphabet, e.g. macronized letters, Japanese, and mumbers have disappeared. Also, the Special:Preferences comes up with an internal error. --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 08:55, 17 March 2017 (CDT)
- Oh shoot. There was an error while migrating the database causing some non-ASCII fields to become corrupted. Pages are now fixed, some images are still broken (please do not re-upload them though, they are still there on the server). I'll look at it over the weekend and try to get it fully fixed. You may experience some auto-logout when I clear the caches. Pawitp (talk) 09:37, 17 March 2017 (CDT)
Pronouns in profiles and elsewhere[edit]
This has bothered me a little for a while, but a post on WtW worked me enough to write something about it. Using "it" to refer to most Digimon is bad English. It, as a pronoun, is only suitable for inanimate objects and animals lacking agency and/or that humans don't care about. It isn't suitable at all for *most* Digimon. Used correctly, you could refer Digimon like Mechanorimon or even Gumimon as an "it", but not the average Digimon. There are two gender-nonspecific pronouns you can use: he/his/him or they/their/them. For most profiles, I think the former is going to sound better - a lot of profiles are phrased in such a way as to make the singular they sound particularly awkward. An unfortunate side effect of that policy would be that Digimon who have gender-clarifying attributes (as if, for example, they are based on the goddess Venus) will have to be referred to as she/hers/hers; otherwise some profiles will look absolutely silly, whether you believe Digimon have gender or not, which I assume is the reason someone originally chose to abuse "it". They/them/theirs would usually be preferred where reasonable, of course. Unless someone has objections I will be editing them as I see them and cleaning them up in general. ShiningCelebi (talk) 18:05, 29 August 2016 (CDT)
- Many digimon despite "appearing" to have an actual gender, can be the opposite (we do have canon male Sakuyamon) so even in case of tiddies, we prefer not to use gendered pronouns for the monsters at all. As far as "it" goes, almost digimon are, indeed, animals/monsters. Also keep in mind that the profiles are referring to the "species" in general, rather than individual persons, in which singular they is more respectful, and would be more appropriate on Character pages.--devkyu (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2016 (CDT)
- Yes, Digimon are animals/monsters, but that doesn't make "it" correct. "It" is 100% wrong and bad English for the majority (but not all) of Digimon. Sapient creatures are not an it. Neither are animals of personal interest to any other sapient creatures. "He" is not exclusively a gendered pronoun, so it presents no problems where a Digimon isn't wearing a bra. Yes, whether "she" is appropriate will always be a judgement call, and there should probably be a note somewhere that yes, a male Venusmon exists somewhere in the universe. It's not a matter of respectful versus disrespectful, "it" is just wrong. I'll stick with they/their/them where possible, but actually, a great portion of profiles address the reader as if there is only one of that species. "They" could be done everywhere, really, it would just require more editing for the sentence to sound okay. Probably the right way to go. It does take the judgement call aspect out, albeit at the expense of occasionally more stilted language. There's really a lot of cleanup needed on profiles, they are mostly translated too literally (mine being no exceptions) and the language is very stilted and doesn't flow at all for native English speakers.ShiningCelebi (talk) 13:26, 30 August 2016 (CDT)
- I definitely disagree with 'he/his/him', it may have been gender-neutral in the past but not so much now with 'they' becoming more used. Personally, I'm mostly indifferent towards the usage of 'they' or 'it', though I lean towards 'it' more simply because I'm used to seeing it in profiles; as mentioned it seems more fitting to refer to some Digimon as 'it', and I guess I just prefer to see the same pronouns in all the profiles. You could argue that the person writing the profiles does not see Digimon as equals to them, and so uses 'it' to refer to Digimon and it wouldn't really be wrong if they were 'looking at and describing Digimon from a higher plane', sort of dehumanising them. Either way though, as someone studying English too I refuse to support the fact that such a thing as '100% wrong and bad English' exists. As for the profiles being too literal...when it comes to translating, I tend to go towards the less exact/literal side, but I'm aware some people prefer it more literal..? From what I know Kryten is doing most of the dictionary profiles though so I haven't really done much other than change a bit here and there. --Garmmon (talk) 10:52, 31 August 2016 (CDT)
- This may be coming to this discussion late, but I primarily used "it" because that's what a lot of the more recent in-game official translations used, and also as devkyu stated, the fact that there are many cases of a Digimon's gender not matching its apparent secondary sexual characteristics. I'd be fine with using "they" as a singular gender neutral pronoun, though.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 15:23, 29 June 2017 (CDT)
- Yes, Digimon are animals/monsters, but that doesn't make "it" correct. "It" is 100% wrong and bad English for the majority (but not all) of Digimon. Sapient creatures are not an it. Neither are animals of personal interest to any other sapient creatures. "He" is not exclusively a gendered pronoun, so it presents no problems where a Digimon isn't wearing a bra. Yes, whether "she" is appropriate will always be a judgement call, and there should probably be a note somewhere that yes, a male Venusmon exists somewhere in the universe. It's not a matter of respectful versus disrespectful, "it" is just wrong. I'll stick with they/their/them where possible, but actually, a great portion of profiles address the reader as if there is only one of that species. "They" could be done everywhere, really, it would just require more editing for the sentence to sound okay. Probably the right way to go. It does take the judgement call aspect out, albeit at the expense of occasionally more stilted language. There's really a lot of cleanup needed on profiles, they are mostly translated too literally (mine being no exceptions) and the language is very stilted and doesn't flow at all for native English speakers.ShiningCelebi (talk) 13:26, 30 August 2016 (CDT)
Wikimon 10th Anniversary[edit]
Even though it's early mentioning it now, oddly (and scarily) enough, Wikimon's 10th anniversary is next year, so it's literally months away from now rather than years. What sort of ideas should we come up with in the very early stages of the long run-up to this major milestone? --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 01:56, 7 February 2014 (CST)
- ...Oh my god I feel so old. Wow, I don't even know. We're already getting a new layout/theme. I will try and think of something that could realistically be done and not be resource-intensive. I think maybe cleaning up or improving certain categories might be useful.--devkyu (talk) 02:15, 7 February 2014 (CST)
- Maybe do a 10-month project or something. Like, starting in February 2015 we devote each month to a "big" project. One month could be cutting the number of stubs in half, or getting at least 10 pictures in each episode page or something. (It is almost 20 months tho, so we got time...) --Koroku (talk) 02:34, 6 March 2014 (CST)
Did anything ever get done for this? I know I missed it... erg --Koroku (talk)
Guidelines for Using Spaces in Names[edit]
I'm not able to find anywhere the reasoning for including spaces in the names of Digimon. I've never really seen any official material that includes the spaces, nor can I really see why some names get spaces while others don't. My best guess is that spaces are included anytime the name of a Digimon includes the name of another existing Digimon, is that right? And just out of curiosity, how did the practice of putting spaces in the names begin? Humulos (talk) 13:39, 29 August 2018 (CDT)
- If a name is two "words", a space is added. Wikimon takes its name formatting from Megchan's Digimon Encyclopedia. She was the official translator for the original series. In some of the Adventure evolution sequences, spacing was used between the names in Adventure (Holy Angemon specifically) on screen. --devkyu (talk) 09:01, 3 September 2018 (CDT)
Romanizations[edit]
Why not use the official romanization by Bandai (in some cases)? I understand that there are some errors (which are usually fixed) and it is noteworthy that they are used in more than one media like the case of Picklemon that has been romanized in this way since 1999 as well as Orgemon (which only recently user here) I believe it should not be a choice of preference but a rule, if have any other official (Japan) reference to use otherwise and that is relevant, ok ... but if not, it makes no sense to put personal preferences. --User:Shadowman (talk) 15:51, 26 July 2019 (UTC-2)
Translation Requests[edit]
I was wondering if a translation request category could be made. I can translate professionally, and I'd be willing to help with anything that's missing. Valkyrimon (talk) 20:30, 4 August 2019 (CDT)
- That's cool to hear!--Shadow Shinji (talk) 07:51, 17 September 2019 (CDT)
Jogress evolution from Pendulum Ver.20th[edit]
This is something I've been discussing with Muur and TMS via Discord, so I would appreciate if you guys could share your opinion here too. Muur has been recently adding the Jogress evolution forms for the Digimon Pendulum Ver.20th, which are quite a lot considering the different combinations. However, we already have some prior examples to how to handle this kind of Jogresses in the original Pendulum in which a base Digimon can Jogress with multiple other ones to achieve another Digimon from the next level. You can see some examples of this in the page of Piemon and Mihiramon.
Eg. Dobermon can evolve to Mihiramon by Jogressing with some compatible Digimon which are Aquilamon, Thunderbirmon, XV-mon or Witchmon, but Dobermon being the base form, so in the page of Mihiramon, it is only quoted Dobermon with the other four as extra Digimon instead of an entry for each one. In the case of the Pendulum Ver.20th is quite more complicated since there are also Copymon from past devices, so the list can become endless. Let's see the case of Piccolomon. There are 7 base Digimon (Starmon, Monochromon, Kabuterimon, Tortamon,Tailmon, Kuwagamon and Gekomon) that can Jogress with multiple combinations to become Piccolomon in the Pendulum Ver.20th as you can see in Humulos' guide: https://i.imgur.com/voD99Nf.png. So in my opinion, it should only be quoted these 7 base forms with all the compatible Digimon forms, instead of the current 74 entries that Muur has added (this is applicable to other pages of the same kind for future edits), so to me it should be put as such:
- Gekomon (with all the compatible Digimon)
- Kabuterimon (with all the compatible Digimon)
- Kuwagamon (with all the compatible Digimon)
- Monochromon (with all the compatible Digimon)
- Starmon (with all the compatible Digimon)
- Tailmon (with all the compatible Digimon)
- Tortamon (with all the compatible Digimon)
There's also another reason for this, an evolution section this large as the current one in Piccolomon's page makes the page more difficult to load and it's not visually appealing. I mean, when editing a wikia, you should do it in a way people can find it engaging; if not loses all the point in my opinion. That's the same reason why it was decided to use tabs when it comes to the 'Image Gallery' section of each page, to make it visually simpler and also easier to process. Which is the opposite of what it has been doing here. What do you guys think?--Shadow Shinji (talk) 09:08, 17 September 2019 (CDT)
- Yes, I do think it will be best to stick to precedent. It will save us some space. --TMS (talk) 18:06, 17 September 2019 (EST)
Main Page[edit]
For some reason, my browser won't treat any of the links above the search bar as clickable, when I'm on the main page. This indicates to me that there's a too-large div overlapping them in the upper left corner.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 14:55, 19 December 2019 (CST)
- Which browser are you using? --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 04:08, 20 December 2019 (CST)
- I was using Chrome.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 07:55, 10 July 2020 (CDT)
Affiliate question[edit]
Hi, sorry to revive an old topic, but I was wondering why Lylat Wiki was removed as an affiliate? and, more importantly, was wondering if we could be affiliates again? Tacopill (talk) 08:56, 13 May 2020 (CDT)
- I'm not sure why Lylat and Starfy Wikis were removed, not sure whether it was accidental or if it was because they were encapsulated under the NIWA link, but I've added them back to the sidebar. --Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 09:22, 13 May 2020 (CDT)
Discord[edit]
I created a Discord server for Wikimon and the FANDOM Wiki. Can a mod please email me so that I can give them the invite pass? I want to make sure y'all approve and it works as desired before I post it publicly.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 07:55, 10 July 2020 (CDT)
- To clarify, I was asked to create one for the FANDOM wiki, and I saw that there were general requests on here for one too, so I thought I could help. If y'all dislike them being joined, or dislike having a discord at all, I will gladly remove the wikimon components from it. Just trying to be helpful.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 12:31, 10 July 2020 (CDT)
Debut table separation suggested[edit]
I think the debut table in each Digimon page, and other types of pages where it appears in, should be split further than it already is. Currently, it is split into three sections, Anime/Manga, Game/V-Pet, and Card. I think it should be five sections instead, Anime, Manga, Video Game, V-Pet, and Card. I don't think Anime and Manga series should be combined into one. I think they are two completely different medium for stories, and thus I don't consider them the same thing for combination. I think similarly of video games and V-Pet devices, V-Pet games are not as in depth as most Digimon video games, so they should not be considered one and the same in my opinion. Cards are already split into their own section, so there's no need in my opinion to split that even further. That is why I suggest them to be split from three to five sections. Tag365 (talk) 23:19, 16 August 2020 (CDT)