Talk:God
God = Homeostasis?[edit]
After looking at the recent chapter of the Xros Wars manga with Yggdrasill and Homeostasis being mentioned, what exactly is Homeostasis, besides being the entity that possessed Hikari?--Ainz ( talk | contribs ) 15:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)
Third Sphere[edit]
I have just a ton of complaints about this list. Where the devil is Bagramon specified as an archangel? Where are Darcmon or Pidmon specified as rank 9 angels? If it's relying on the profile calling them "Angel Digimon", ClavisAngemon's profile uses that same term. Pidmon's profile even explicitly states that its of a lower rank than Angemon.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 15:20, 28 June 2022 (CDT)
- I think some of them are conventional truths based on common generalizations, like indeed D'arcmon is going to be a lower-ranked Angel Digimon compared to let's say Ophanimon, and also in contrast with the actual information coming from the traditional Christian angelology. I might be wrong though, I didn't make any of this changes IIRC. Besides Bagramon is called an archangel in the manga and based on Samael, their main source of inspiration, but the generally ranking again is based (I think) on common truths coming from the actual mythology behind. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 17:25, 28 June 2022 (CDT)
- Seraphimon, Cherubimon, and Ophanimon also represent archangels. "Archangel" has two different meanings coming from the context of Christian mythology.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 19:11, 28 June 2022 (CDT)
page[edit]
this page should not just copy paste everything from Yggdrasil, Homeostasis, Homeros, and the Four Holy Beasts. all it should do it state that sometimes those are considered to be god, and then people can click those pages to get the relevant information. if this page duplicates those pages - then what is the point of those pages existing? theyd may as well just be merged into this page. also, this is meant to refer to the god above even yggdrasil itself. pages are meant to be null canon pages (i.e., the reference book and other such lore sources). individual lore from random places like manga and games cant just be assumed to be applied to the entire franchise. chroncile x has yggdrasil live in the kernel and as such in that canon - yggdrasil is taking the place of this god. but- the reference book itself says that god is a human as per daemon's profile. as such, it is only canon to chronicle that said human god doesnt exist as its yggy. the lead of pages wiki wide refers to null canon lore. the fiction section exists for a reason - for things where theyre not part of the null canon. i.e. adventure, cyber sleuth, chronicle etc. this page currently pushes that the entire franchise follows one continuous timeline and Dark Area and Digital World had/have the same issue after those recent edits. if something refers to yggrasil as god, make a brief mention under fiction that its considered to be god there (like huanglongmon in rearise) and have yggdrasil's actions covered on its own page. this isnt meant to be some big combined page...youre not meant to just clone information on multiple pages. there should not be all this yggdrasil storyline stuff from things like manga and video games...those should only be on yggdrasil's page.Muur (talk) 03:44, 13 December 2022 (CST)
- Sorry about that, I thought that it would be neet to have a section of the page summarizing the information about the different entities that have served as the gods of the digital world. The idea was not for this page to be a combination of the other pages, but to just be some kind of "hub" for people to know these entities and have a little summary about why they are considered to be gods, and if they wanted more detailed information, they could go to their main pages.
- However, there isn't really a god above Yggdrasill. The null canon version of god is Yggdrasill. Demon's profile wonders if the god of the digital world may have been the human who created the digital world, but it didn't confirm that it really was him, instead, Digimon Chronicle, Digimon Chronicle X and the Advent of the Three Great Angels (from which this quote comes from btw: "It is often interpreted that "God" is a term used as a synonym for the Four Holy Beasts that govern the stability of the Digital World, but it's also said that God is an existence beyond the Four Holy Beasts. Some research reports that God has a different origin from the digimon and in fact is the System of the Digital World itself") confirm that the real god of the digital world is not a human, but yggdrasill itself (I already explained in the Dark Area discussion page why Chronicle and Chronicle X should be seen as null canon). Also, just so you know, the image that you are using right now as the depiction of God comes from V-Tamer, not the "null canon", which by your own words, it shouldn't be used in this page at all. And that image isn't even the one depicting God, it's the one showing the seal that God put in the digital world against humans, that's why you see a human behind a star shaped symbol. The image that shows God is the one that comes right before that one, and it depicts it as a sphere with hands. --Convergencia Digital (talk) 06:13, 13 December 2022 (CST)
- chronicle, as stated before, is not considered to be null canon by the wikis so cant be used as null canon info and should just be under the chroincile section. so we have what's stated in daemon's profile and other profiles. its fine to have it as a hub page of sorts, but it should only say yggdrasil and the others are sometimes considered gods and then people can click their links to see their info in their own page. as for the image, i suppose thats fair. it should be moved to the v-tamer section. so thats a fair point. basically the lead of the original page before all the pages included info about the various gods saying that some places say its a human, some say its the holy beasts, some say its yggdrasil (and then the various medias have taken this notion and used whichever they feel like, but never all at once). homeostasis doesnt exist in null canon so should only be mentioned under the adventure, tri, and other relevant pages as a brief "homeostasis is stated to be god in tri" or whatever, then people can click her page and read what her plot actions were in tri. the issue of the way the page is set up acts like all the gods exist in all universes but thats not something we can push. the profiles we have all just go sometimes this guy is god, but also sometimes this guy is. and we see it in chronicle as mentioned before. yggdrasil lives in teh kernel in DCX, but he does *not* live there in rearise, so isnt god in rearise.Muur (talk) 06:51, 13 December 2022 (CST)