Talk:Whamon Perfect
The profile mistakenly says "Folder Island", but....yeah.KrytenKoro06 20:32, 31 December 2010 (CST)
Whamon/Perfect[edit]
What's the point of having two different pages for Whamon, while Bandai treats Whamon as a single species? I mean, there are many Digimon that may have potentially two different levels, it's not like a it's a unique case. Even more important:
1) Digimon.net, the official website of Digimon and main source of the Digimon Reference Book, stated that they were going to add two profiles to the DRB of Digimon that are going to appear in the Digital Monster ver.20th till the 24th of March. Since Whamon (Adult) is set to appear here, and they didn't add a profile for it, it's safe to say that they don't consider it as a separate species from Whamon (Perfect). What any other evidences do we need?
2) While the profile of Whamon (Perfect) mentions both variants, this doesn't imply anything in particular per se. It just says that the Whamon from Folder Continent are stronger that those from File Island, but even in V-Tamer, Zeromaru states this same fact regarding species who inhabit the two locations, so I don't really see the big deal. The profile itself even admits that both variants belong to the same species of Digimon.
--Shadow Shinji (talk) 06:07, 25 March 2017 (CDT)
- I feel confident there's other Digimon who are described as being the same species. At any rate, there do exist separate profiles for Whamon Adult and Perfect elsewhere, and they have different evolutions. It would be a little strange to merge them together for the latter reason alone. The Perfect Whamon evolves as you'd expect a Perfect to, and the Adult Whamon evolves as you'd expect an Adult to. The case of other level changes is interesting. It may be they should be broken out too... ShiningCelebi (talk) 08:15, 25 March 2017 (CDT)
- I understand your point, but the thing is that Bandai regards Whamon as a single unique species, regardless of what we may consider "coherent" or not, not as a splited up one; from their point of view, they don't distinguish between the two Whamon species-wise, so the Whamon that appears in the Digital Monster and the one in the Pendulum series constitute the same species, with only a level difference. Same as what happened with the "Perfect Ultimates" from Digital Monster ver.S and Digimon World, such as HerakleKabuterimon, Hououmon, Mugendramon or Holydramon. The only other great media that makes this difference is Digimon Adventure (aside from V-Tamer, which is a straighforward manga adaptation of the original V-Pets), but that's mainly because this Whamon comes from the File Island, as the official profile from the DRB points out. There are some other cases along the franchise that face similar issues in this regard; for example, the classical Lilithmon and the one from Xros Wars. The first one is a Mega-level Virus Digimon, while the other one has no level nor attribute, and even more, the latter has some profiles like the one from Super Xros Wars or Digimon Collectors, that only refer to this specific one, but I think that everyone could agree that they are not separate species, because at the end of the day, Bandai don't make any differences between the two, regardless our personal way of seeing it (it's not like the XW Lilithmon has its own entry in the DRB, aside the fact that both share the same exact Bandai art). So, I don't really see the differences between this case, for instance, and the case of Whamon in all honesty. However, I agree with you that the evolution routes would be kind of odd having all of them altogether, but I don't really think that this is a problem at all, and even more, there are other familiar similar cases that also follow this kind of atypical pattern. For example, Susanoomon can be obtained from several different ways:
- As the Fusion of the guys from Frontier plus the 10 Legendary Spirits.
- As the Jogress/DigiXros of the Ten Legendary Warriors itself.
- As the Jogress Evolution of KaiserGreymon and MagnaGarurumon, or in parallel, AncientGreymon and AncientGarurumon.
- As a direct evolution from Gaioumon, a Mega-level evolution.
- As the Jogress of two Perfect-level Digimon.
- As the Ancient Spirit Evolution from Agnimon or Wolfmon.
- I understand your point, but the thing is that Bandai regards Whamon as a single unique species, regardless of what we may consider "coherent" or not, not as a splited up one; from their point of view, they don't distinguish between the two Whamon species-wise, so the Whamon that appears in the Digital Monster and the one in the Pendulum series constitute the same species, with only a level difference. Same as what happened with the "Perfect Ultimates" from Digital Monster ver.S and Digimon World, such as HerakleKabuterimon, Hououmon, Mugendramon or Holydramon. The only other great media that makes this difference is Digimon Adventure (aside from V-Tamer, which is a straighforward manga adaptation of the original V-Pets), but that's mainly because this Whamon comes from the File Island, as the official profile from the DRB points out. There are some other cases along the franchise that face similar issues in this regard; for example, the classical Lilithmon and the one from Xros Wars. The first one is a Mega-level Virus Digimon, while the other one has no level nor attribute, and even more, the latter has some profiles like the one from Super Xros Wars or Digimon Collectors, that only refer to this specific one, but I think that everyone could agree that they are not separate species, because at the end of the day, Bandai don't make any differences between the two, regardless our personal way of seeing it (it's not like the XW Lilithmon has its own entry in the DRB, aside the fact that both share the same exact Bandai art). So, I don't really see the differences between this case, for instance, and the case of Whamon in all honesty. However, I agree with you that the evolution routes would be kind of odd having all of them altogether, but I don't really think that this is a problem at all, and even more, there are other familiar similar cases that also follow this kind of atypical pattern. For example, Susanoomon can be obtained from several different ways:
- And after all, it's still Susanoomon in all this cases, not Susanoomon (Ancient Spirit), Susanoomon (Super Ultimate), Susanoomon (Ultimate) and so forth.
- Anyways, I would also love to know some other opinion in this regard. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 10:41, 25 March 2017 (CDT)
- I also feel that it's important to remember that the reason Whamon exists as both an Adult and a Perfect in the first place is so it can fill two Evolution niches simultaneously. Chimera-gui (talk) 00:05, 27 March 2017 (CDT)
- Anyways, I would also love to know some other opinion in this regard. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 10:41, 25 March 2017 (CDT)
Whamon Perfect[edit]
Shouldn't this article be the default Whamon, due to the DRB?KrytenKoro06 (talk) 09:31, 9 January 2019 (CST)
anime profile[edit]
can someone move the reboot anime profile over to this one? the art book confirms this is the one from the episode. https://twitter.com/Sakura__2012/status/1344084923897040898/photo/2 Muur (talk) 19:08, 29 December 2020 (CST)
