Talk:Mugendramon (Adventure)
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Tamer's Mugendramon[edit]
In regards to this edit, isn't the Mugendramon from the WS games the same from Adventure? If anyone can please provide some context, that would be very helpful. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 01:46, 29 July 2024 (CDT)
- It could be, but that's never specified. They say Millenniumon was formed by a Mugendramon and Chimairamon that survived a little while after being defeated by Taichi, but there's no reference to it being one of the Dark Masters. --TMS (talk) 08:09, 29 July 2024 (EST)
- It doesn't need to be called a member of the Dark Masters, specifically. Zeromaru is not a Royal Knight in V-Tamer 01, whilst it is called as such in Xros Wars Manga. If it is stated that this Mugendramon survived after being defeated by Taichi and co., exactly by these words, then it is indeed the same Mugendramon. If we claim it is not, we are going against the will of the creators behind the series of WS games to tie Adventure, 02, and Tamers universes somehow, plot holes and inconsistencies aside. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 10:43, 29 July 2024 (CDT)
- And when did Taichi defeat Chimairamon? And how did Mugendramon come back after disintegrating? I have a headcanon about it, but from the way it's presented there's no indication that it's the same Mugendramon. --TMS (talk) 12:56, 29 July 2024 (EST)
- seems odd that tai would beat up some random machinedramon off screen. in regards to kimeramon, it says "tai and his friends". his friends beat up kimeramon Muur (talk) 12:25, 29 July 2024 (CDT)
- They did beat up a Chimairamon... three years later. --TMS (talk) 13:33, 29 July 2024 (EST)
- i mean, milli has time travel powers. ws plot uses time travel.Muur (talk) 12:37, 29 July 2024 (CDT)
- As I said before, there are plenty of inconsistencies, talk about Ryo Akiyama himself, but that doesn't mean there are two Mugendramon invovled in these stories. The idea is that it is the same one from the OG Adventure, the one that was defeated by Taichi and friends, because that is the original story that the games are referring to. How did or when did the crossover from Hunters take place? You can say that Taichi at some point helped in defeating Quartzmon, and that wouldn't be a wrong statement. It could have happened the same with Chimairamon. Every new product that adds something new to the lore is full of plot holes and things that doesn't make sense. Tri, last evolution, and the beginning are very good recent examples, but that doesn't mean they are not the same characters, unless it is stated otherwise, as in the 2020 Reboot. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 03:20, 30 July 2024 (CDT)
- If you must insist on including it, just say that Adventure's Mugendramon might be a component of Millenniumon and then link to the latter character's page. --TMS (talk) 09:02, 30 July 2024 (EST)
- Do you mean like in a trivia section?--Shadow Shinji (talk) 09:32, 30 July 2024 (CDT)
- If you must insist on including it, just say that Adventure's Mugendramon might be a component of Millenniumon and then link to the latter character's page. --TMS (talk) 09:02, 30 July 2024 (EST)
- As I said before, there are plenty of inconsistencies, talk about Ryo Akiyama himself, but that doesn't mean there are two Mugendramon invovled in these stories. The idea is that it is the same one from the OG Adventure, the one that was defeated by Taichi and friends, because that is the original story that the games are referring to. How did or when did the crossover from Hunters take place? You can say that Taichi at some point helped in defeating Quartzmon, and that wouldn't be a wrong statement. It could have happened the same with Chimairamon. Every new product that adds something new to the lore is full of plot holes and things that doesn't make sense. Tri, last evolution, and the beginning are very good recent examples, but that doesn't mean they are not the same characters, unless it is stated otherwise, as in the 2020 Reboot. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 03:20, 30 July 2024 (CDT)
- i mean, milli has time travel powers. ws plot uses time travel.Muur (talk) 12:37, 29 July 2024 (CDT)
- They did beat up a Chimairamon... three years later. --TMS (talk) 13:33, 29 July 2024 (EST)
- seems odd that tai would beat up some random machinedramon off screen. in regards to kimeramon, it says "tai and his friends". his friends beat up kimeramon Muur (talk) 12:25, 29 July 2024 (CDT)
- And when did Taichi defeat Chimairamon? And how did Mugendramon come back after disintegrating? I have a headcanon about it, but from the way it's presented there's no indication that it's the same Mugendramon. --TMS (talk) 12:56, 29 July 2024 (EST)
- It doesn't need to be called a member of the Dark Masters, specifically. Zeromaru is not a Royal Knight in V-Tamer 01, whilst it is called as such in Xros Wars Manga. If it is stated that this Mugendramon survived after being defeated by Taichi and co., exactly by these words, then it is indeed the same Mugendramon. If we claim it is not, we are going against the will of the creators behind the series of WS games to tie Adventure, 02, and Tamers universes somehow, plot holes and inconsistencies aside. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 10:43, 29 July 2024 (CDT)
