Talk:Night Chiropmon

Addressing this to Ruki Makino, I think you can definitely make the argument that Night Chiropmon is based on Kamen Rider Geats, but then I have to ask why other Bat-themed Riders aren't also being considered? Why aren't they relevant to the very specific bat motif?

Anyways, if someone were to ask me what the Bat-themed superhero Digimon with a combination of high-tech equipment, analytical skills, close combat techniques, a bladed boomerang, I'd definitely be thinking about Batman and his Batarangs every time. I figured that information was relevant at the time, but we soon got information from Watanabe Kenji himself on the inspirations for the design and no superhero was mentioned at all anyways. Do we remove everything outside the Animedia interview? Night Chiropmon's only confirmed inspiration is Angemon, a Digimon designed back when Watanabe was most using his 90's American comics influence in his grungy aesthetic and heavy linework, which doesn't apply to Night Chiropmon. That's about as far back as we can track that. The plague doctor mask also doesn't imply any other hero influence either.

Anyways, I don't see any reason to be inflammatory over that instead of simple disagreeing and starting a discussion or maybe making the edit first and then discussing it if you feel confident. --NightwingFan (talk) 12:10, 20 February 2026 (CST)

I feel like asserting that this obviously is Kamen Rider instead of Batman is rather presumptive and ignorant when most people who saw NightChiropmon jumped to the latter first and may never have even heard of Kamen Rider Glare before now. There is arguably just as much linking it to Batman as there is to Glare, especially seeing as Glare does not use a boomerang whereas NightChiropmon and Batman do, not to mention Digimon has drawn from 90's American comics long before it became or Tokusatsu influenced with the likes of Justimon and TigerVespamon.

To be clear I think it's more likely to be a, possibly coincidental, merging of Glare with Batman given its confirmed inspirations aren't superhero themed whatsoever, eastern or western. Chimera-gui (talk) 13:42, 20 February 2026 (CST)

Saying that most people jumped to assuming Batman influence is, I would argue, far more presumptive, seeing as Kamen Rider has been a cultural fixture ever since its revival in 2000. Without doing a multilingual survey no one can truly know what "most people thought" it was based on, but I nearly exclusively follow Japanese language accounts on social media and have only ever seen English speakers compare it to Batman, so at least anecdotally it seems to me that the comparison to Batman is a purely western phenomenon caused by a lack of familiarity with tokusatsu (especially considering that Toei has historically made very odd choices about what they do or don't choose to license for western release, with Geats being one of the only Rider series allowed a western release until they started simulcasting with the current season, Zeztz). Ruki Makino (talk) 18:39, 20 February 2026 (CST)

In regards to why they're avoiding taking inspiration from Kiva, it's impossible to say until we have the context of the full evolutionary line. Given the appearance of NightChirop as well as the established design priors in "being meant to have a similar design pattern to the Adventure Angemon line," it's likely that NightChirop is the undersuit that the Perfect will build on top of, and if so it would make sense for Kiva elements to be added there. Ruki Makino (talk) 18:32, 20 February 2026 (CST)

I'm sorry but overexplaining Geats and having no actual source makes the whole part of Design and Analysis tab be misleading and a red flag. Please, it would be nice if we could have confirmation on those details or else refrain from adding unsourced information on it. I suppose this will be more confusing to the wiki's users (and contributors) than helpful. Be it about Geats of Batman or whoever-is, I thought that tab was used for real and confirmed information.

I apologize if I sound harsh or rude. I'm quite confused about the wiki's tabs and its contents atm. --KausGammamon (talk) 21:21, 23 February 2026 (CST)

If other editors agree to Kaus's stance, I am fully in support of completely removing any information from the Design & Analysis tab that can't be traced to a verifiable source. I agree that it's weird that this wall of text is allowed, I'm just used to arcane precedents on this wiki so I didn't question it. Ruki Makino (talk) 21:13, 28 February 2026 (CST)

I think Kaus’ stance is the most reasonable, and since we do have verifiable information from the Animedia interview, I think we can remove the rest. It’s simply not clear enough whether Night Chiropmon is based on any particular hero character, but we do know it’s inspired by Angemon, so that should be the focus.--NightwingFan (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2026 (CST)

In cases like this where editors aren't in agreement (or really in general), I would remove anything that can't be cited from an official source. --TMS (talk) 13:37, 1 March 2026 (EST)

Hey guys, I saw the edit on the page but I wasn't aware this discussion was going on. I personally think that the design section is a similar case to the etymology one, I think it shouldn't be a problem if this section in particular, contains external information that can be relevant to the page, for example possible references to actual characters or media that can help understand the idea or context behind that Digimon (unless that information has been 100% debunked like the notorious cases of Jesmon or Duftmon, or it's totally unrelated), as long as the information is consistent, informative, polished and it is not claimed as to be 100% factual. I think however, it is very important to use the more appropriate language to convey this idea, and including sources if possible when some info comes from an official source; claiming one connection as fact when it is not the case is where I would personally draw the line. For example, I can speak for myself, I wasn't aware of all the likely connections of Night Chiropmon with Kamen Rider, and after checking all the info included, I got to appreciate more the design and connect the dots. Isn't that one of the main purposes of a wiki?--Shadow Shinji (talk) 15:07, 1 March 2026 (CST)