Talk:Angel Army
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About the angel army[edit]
Why do we have the angel army and the "powers" as if they were the same thing? There's no mention anywhere that both of these are the same. Also, I think we should move the "Army of the Gods" section from the God page to here. The God page should only talk about God and nothing else, having the Army of the Gods in the same pages seems unnecesary when this page exists. I also saw somewhere that there's doubts about this even being a thing, but it's already been confirmed in the Advent of the Three Great Angels and in the "Main Forces and Organizations of the Digital World" display
- http://web.archive.org/web/20060117111814/http://www.digimon.channel.or.jp:80/city/card/lineup/starter6-10.html
- www.twitter.com/Wikimon_net/status/1555728470289928197/photo/1
--Convergencia Digital (talk) 06:22, 13 December 2022 (CST)
- i agree we probably shouldnt have this army on this page. its not relevant to god, itd be like having the royal knights on the page of yggdrasil. gods army if its a real lore thing and not some made up stuff should be its own page and not on here. as for the angel army/powers, slashangemons profile says Angel Army (Powers), so says theyre one and the same. the forces of the digital world talks about the angel army and includes a few angels, but it doenst include all te other characters mentioned on this page like bagramon and whoever else. if you can provide information about this "advent of the three archangels" then that would be good- but- it would have to include the group name as 天使軍団 or パワーズ, any other name would be considered its own group without confirmation theyre the same and depending where the information comes from could be considered continuity only (such as the three gods of destruction in next order, a group but not a null canon group). non null canon groups would get their own but theyd be character pages not lore pages and refer only to next order for example. the angel group on the forces page only has 8 angels on it, so we can only include 8 angels. if you can provide a source that there are more angels in teh group with 天使軍団 or パワーズ then cool. a lot of what you have done just assumes things are the same. e.g., a group of angels and another group of angels so they must be the same thing. but wikis do not run on assumptions they have to be officially stated. e.g. there's even things like sayo having a lunamon then a lekismon but as you didnt see it happen on screen you cant use dawn/dusk as a source to say lunamon to lekismon is a canon evo cuz it was off screen. you simply assume it happened and therefore - disqualified. its harsh, but its not misinformaton is avoided.Muur (talk) 06:43, 13 December 2022 (CST)
- So what you are saying is... since SlashAngemon is a part of the Angel Army and it's profile mentions the "Powers", then the "Angel Army" and the "Powers" should be the same thing... but when the Three Archangels and the rest of Angels are said to be part of God's Army and also appear as part of the Angel Army in the Digimon Museum Display, then they shouln't be considered the same? even tho you used that exact same criteria to determine that the powers and the angel army should be counted as the same? If we are not counting God's Army and the Angel Army as the same, even tho they are composed of the same group of Digimon, then we shouldn't count the Powers either. Also, I didn't create that list of angels and fallen angels, that was already in God's page since at least a year ago, the only thing I did was to move it to this page.--Convergencia Digital (talk) 06:58, 13 December 2022 (CST)
- no, slashangemon's profile says that the angel army are also known as powers. so they refer to the same thing. it specficlaly refers to the group that slashangemon leads as 天使軍団（パワーズ）. angel army (powers). so angel army = powers. and angel army was mentioned in the forces of the digital world. if your source doesnt use either 天使軍団 or パワーズ they are not the same group and we cant say are without direct confirmation. e.g., we cant cliam these guys showed up in digimon 2020, cuz they werent named there (sometimes we dont count the holy beasts as holy beasts if their name isnt mentioned). dont forget, the Big Death Stars have six of their members in the Death Generals, but we cant claim tehyre the same group. if your advent of the archangels includes a god's army group, unless teh japanese matches, theyre a different group.Muur (talk) 07:07, 13 December 2022 (CST)
- So what you are saying is... since SlashAngemon is a part of the Angel Army and it's profile mentions the "Powers", then the "Angel Army" and the "Powers" should be the same thing... but when the Three Archangels and the rest of Angels are said to be part of God's Army and also appear as part of the Angel Army in the Digimon Museum Display, then they shouln't be considered the same? even tho you used that exact same criteria to determine that the powers and the angel army should be counted as the same? If we are not counting God's Army and the Angel Army as the same, even tho they are composed of the same group of Digimon, then we shouldn't count the Powers either. Also, I didn't create that list of angels and fallen angels, that was already in God's page since at least a year ago, the only thing I did was to move it to this page.--Convergencia Digital (talk) 06:58, 13 December 2022 (CST)
