Talk:Crack Team

Ultimate Battle Set - Legend of Dramon Set & Neo Metal Empire Set Booklets

If someone has access to/scans from these booklets, is there an actual section on the Crack Team itself? --Ainz ^{( talk | contribs )} 07:25, 5 August 2017 (CDT)

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• Chimairamon is thought to either have been built as a prototype for Mugendramon or as a weapon against it.
• Andromon's profile states its technology was appropriated for MetalGreymon and Megadramon, which could possibly imply it was done by the same people, but the word used (流用) has connotations of theft, so the implication is that the tech was instead plagiarized by the Crack Team. This follows with HiAndromon and Boltmon.
• Gigadramon's profile talks about how it was developed alongside/simultaneously with Megadramon, so I think that one's about as clear as any of the Vulcanusmon references.
• Going on from the Andromon profile, the MetalGreymon profiles use language that implies that they are doing the modifications to themselves (ex. it was the MetalGreymon who were able to extend their lifespan)

While Mugendramon's profile takes kind of the opposite tack as Andromon's, implying that the people who developed it also developed both Andromon and MetalGreymon even though those species individual profiles imply the opposite, (1) Mugendramon's profile itself does not assign it to the Crack Team, and its assignment there was instead done many years after these profiles were put out, and (2) Mugendramon's profile talks about how "someone" (implied to be someone stealing Mugendramon and corrupting it) is responsibile for turning its DigiCore evil. So that, alongside Chimairamon's profile and how Andromon's profile talks about "appropriation", paint a very different picture that makes a lot more sense for a black-hat hacker "crack" group -- normal scientists developed the other Cyborg Digimon not explicitly stated to be part of the Crack Team, and the Crack Team stole their work for their own Megadramon/Gigadramon pair, and corrupted Mugendramon. It's still bizarre that the explicitly purifying Aegisdramon is assigned to the explicitly malicious Crack Team, but whatevs.

So, in summary, Chimairamon should be rephrased as "possibly or possibly not", Gigadramon should go ahead and be listed as a member, and the others should definitely be removed because the lore actually points in the direction of the Crack Team stealing Mugendramon, rather than developing him themselves.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 09:54, 25 August 2020 (CDT)

Four years later, reiterating this critique. This image and this report kind of illustrate what I'm saying -- according to the Report, the "official members" are Chaosdramon, Mugendramon, Gundramon, MetalTyranomon, Megadramon, Gigadramon, MetalSeadramon, GigaSeadramon, and Aegisdramon. The relationship chart labels the rectangle "digimon employed by humans" instead of "Crack Team", and explains that it's focusing on Digimon that the Crack Team "prefers to employ", which is not quite the same thing (and oddly leaves out Gundramon, despite its profile being one that does clearly identify it as a member). It includes Chaosdramon, Mugendramon, HiAndromon, MetalSeadramon, GigaSeadramon, and Aegisdramon directly, and then has a white rectangle cutout to show relations to other Digimon, with the specific term "Technology appropriated for" connecting Andromon and Boltmon. While Megadramon, Gigadramon, and MetalTyrannomon have been validated by other sources as being part of the Crack Team (Re:Digitize card set and the Report, for example), MetalMamemon, MetalGreymon, Andromon, and Boltmon have not, and the formatting used indicates that it's not necessarily claiming they're part of the Crack Team -- just that they're related to the lore of the group. While it's possible they were all developed by the Crack Team, with the given sources it's also possible they weren't, and I think it's improper to make this claim in the wiki's voice. Instead, I think they should be listed as Related Digimon, like Bacchusmon and Chimairamon.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 12:59, 9 December 2024 (CST)

I think making a distinction between "a member of the Crack Team" and "employed by the Crack Team" is just unnecessary semantics. If we're going to be specific, the Crack Team's actual members are the humans, and the Digimon are just the humans' tools. As such, there is no actual distinction between the membership statuses of the Digimon. It's just that some of them have specified field roles, while others are more generic or just serve as prototypical testbeds.

Also, an issue with your point about the relationship chart's cutouts is that the cutouts are still within the overall box containing the Crack Team members. The cutouts aren't separating them from the group, but categorizing their relations with each other within the same group. Case in point, look at the other groups within the chart. The Devas are all in four separate cutouts based on their relations to the Four Holy Beasts, but they're all still Devas within the Deva box. The Three Archangels are also within the Angel Army box. --YongYoKyo (talk) 14:15, 9 December 2024 (CST)