Wikimon:Community Portal

Pronouns in profiles and elsewhere
This has bothered me a little for a while, but a post on WtW worked me enough to write something about it. Using "it" to refer to most Digimon is bad English. It, as a pronoun, is only suitable for inanimate objects and animals lacking agency and/or that humans don't care about. It isn't suitable at all for *most* Digimon. Used correctly, you could refer Digimon like Mechanorimon or even Gumimon as an "it", but not the average Digimon. There are two gender-nonspecific pronouns you can use: he/his/him or they/their/them. For most profiles, I think the former is going to sound better - a lot of profiles are phrased in such a way as to make the singular they sound particularly awkward. An unfortunate side effect of that policy would be that Digimon who have gender-clarifying attributes (as if, for example, they are based on the goddess Venus) will have to be referred to as she/hers/hers; otherwise some profiles will look absolutely silly, whether you believe Digimon have gender or not, which I assume is the reason someone originally chose to abuse "it". They/them/theirs would usually be preferred where reasonable, of course. Unless someone has objections I will be editing them as I see them and cleaning them up in general. ShiningCelebi (talk) 18:05, 29 August 2016 (CDT)
 * Many digimon despite "appearing" to have an actual gender, can be the opposite (we do have canon male Sakuyamon) so even in case of tiddies, we prefer not to use gendered pronouns for the monsters at all. As far as "it" goes, almost digimon are, indeed, animals/monsters. Also keep in mind that the profiles are referring to the "species" in general, rather than individual persons, in which singular they is more respectful, and would be more appropriate on Character pages.--devkyu (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2016 (CDT)
 * Yes, Digimon are animals/monsters, but that doesn't make "it" correct. "It" is 100% wrong and bad English for the majority (but not all) of Digimon. Sapient creatures are not an it. Neither are animals of personal interest to any other sapient creatures. "He" is not exclusively a gendered pronoun, so it presents no problems where a Digimon isn't wearing a bra. Yes, whether "she" is appropriate will always be a judgement call, and there should probably be a note somewhere that yes, a male Venusmon exists somewhere in the universe. It's not a matter of respectful versus disrespectful, "it" is just wrong. I'll stick with they/their/them where possible, but actually, a great portion of profiles address the reader as if there is only one of that species. "They" could be done everywhere, really, it would just require more editing for the sentence to sound okay. Probably the right way to go. It does take the judgement call aspect out, albeit at the expense of occasionally more stilted language. There's really a lot of cleanup needed on profiles, they are mostly translated too literally (mine being no exceptions) and the language is very stilted and doesn't flow at all for native English speakers.ShiningCelebi (talk) 13:26, 30 August 2016 (CDT)
 * I definitely disagree with 'he/his/him', it may have been gender-neutral in the past but not so much now with 'they' becoming more used. Personally, I'm mostly indifferent towards the usage of 'they' or 'it', though I lean towards 'it' more simply because I'm used to seeing it in profiles; as mentioned it seems more fitting to refer to some Digimon as 'it', and I guess I just prefer to see the same pronouns in all the profiles. You could argue that the person writing the profiles does not see Digimon as equals to them, and so uses 'it' to refer to Digimon and it wouldn't really be wrong if they were 'looking at and describing Digimon from a higher plane', sort of dehumanising them. Either way though, as someone studying English too I refuse to support the fact that such a thing as '100% wrong and bad English' exists. As for the profiles being too literal...when it comes to translating, I tend to go towards the less exact/literal side, but I'm aware some people prefer it more literal..? From what I know Kryten is doing most of the dictionary profiles though so I haven't really done much other than change a bit here and there. --Garmmon (talk) 10:52, 31 August 2016 (CDT)

Citation policy?
Hi everybody. I've been doing Digimon research for years now and I've compiled some really thorough lists of Digimon attacks and evolutions. Unfortunately most of these came from researching FAQs and game Wikis in English and Japanese, preferably cross-referencing 2+ sources for everything. However, since I didn't play the games myself but relied on secondary sources, I feel that I can't use this information on the Wiki (except for Version S, which I DID play and do research on before the archived DVR page was discovered). Of course, since I preferred Japanese sources I couldn't seek permission to use the information even if I wanted to: I don't have the means to ask for it! Please let me know if I'm wrong and it is okay to use secondary sources - I could totally provide a list of my sources if anybody's interested, too (including a site that has every alpha/Battle Terminal card transcribed). Elentir (talk) 11:28, 11 August 2016 (CDT)

New Banner Art?
It's been a while since it was first made, so I was thinking of making a new top banner (That doesn't involve at drawn around 2011). It would take a little while since is have to fit it in between work, but does anyone have any ideas for a theme or any particular digimon to add in? I figure something from tri and app monsters would be appropriate. Any thoughts would be appreciated!--devkyu (talk) 03:30, 13 June 2016 (CDT)
 * Yeah, especially since we're still in our 10th anniversary year, a new banner with something from tri. and Appli Monsters sounds cool. --Ainz ( talk 05:43, 13 June 2016 (CDT)

Server speed problems?
I wasn't sure if I should bring this up since I don't know if I'm the only one experiencing this, but very often for me wikimon will take very long to load while editing/saving edits, and often gives me a 500 internal server error afterwards (though the edits seem to be saved most of the time). Anyone know what might be the problem causing this? I do have a somewhat crap internet but other pages don't take as long to load as wikimon does. --Garmmon (talk) 04:37, 22 November 2015 (CST)
 * Yeah, for the past few days it's been agonizingly slow. I assumed it might be because of increased traffic due to Tri, since it's been super, super slow since it aired. --devkyu (talk) 01:05, 23 November 2015 (CST)
 * A server admin took a peek at it when I pointed out that I was trying to figure it out and he found that a caching service was dying on the server. He restarted it so things should start to behave a bit better now. I'm still investigating, but overall I think it will be on the right track again. Dkpat (talk) 09:52, 23 November 2015 (CST)
 * ah that sounds bad...but thank you for taking the trouble to look into/fix it! it should help a lot :> --Garmmon (talk) 06:39, 24 November 2015 (CST)
 * Yeah, thanks for taking care of that. I'd pretty much given up trying to do any edits because it kept timing out on me.--devkyu (talk) 00:14, 25 November 2015 (CST)

Starting to get really bad lag again. Not sure if it's just due to increased traffic because of Digimon Universe or a back-end problem. Anyone else experiencing speed issues?--devkyu (talk) 21:27, 9 June 2016 (CDT)

Mediawiki 1.25 Upgrade problems
Ainz mentioned below that they have been running into a few issues since the upgrade happened, so I'm starting this section to give a place for these to be documented. So far there's a problem editing protected pages and editing user preferences. Also Special Pages has problems. Please report anything else here and I'll see who I can grab to fix these up. (Even if it might be myself) Dkpat (talk) 00:19, 15 July 2015 (CDT)
 * I have updated a few things on the wiki, but I haven't completely gone through it all yet. I'm off to bed for tonight though. I'll take a look again soon! Dkpat (talk) 01:50, 15 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Fixed Sidebar link and fixed protected pages problem. If you know of any other problems, let me know!Dkpat (talk) 12:00, 26 July 2015 (CDT)
 * The new messages notice is still displayed even after reading the new messages for some reason. --Ainz ( talk 17:29, 3 August 2015 (CDT)
 * Same here. I even tried editing the page, thinking a "reply" would make it go away. No such luck. It haunts me wherever I go. --devkyu (talk) 10:33, 23 August 2015 (CDT)
 * I tested out some JavaScript countdown timers a while ago but now they don't appear to work, not sure if it's due to the upgrade. --Ainz ( talk 16:21, 14 October 2015 (CDT)
 * Not sure if another update has occurred but most of the sections of the sidebar have disappeared. --Ainz ( talk 11:58, 12 November 2015 (CST)

Hi guys. I just saw all of these when I got the email about the sharing features(thought I was subscribed for updates, guess not) I'll try to look at all of these oddities too. Dkpat (talk) 08:51, 16 November 2015 (CST)

Content from e-mails
Every now and then I get stuff sent to me via e-mail and so I'll copy/paste it here for you guys. Do with it as you will. --Koroku (talk) 15:39, 4 March 2015 (CST)

Visual Dictionary 2002
I just managed to get a copy of the Digimon Zukan - Digital World Research White Paper book. From what I can tell it is essentially the holy grail of digimon profiles. Apparently it also has a lengthy terminology section in the back too. I'll be uploading scans of it as soon as possible, but does anyone have a preference for what gets prioritized? Most of the book is sorted by "Level" but there are separate sections for essentially "recolor" digimon and also special ones that appeared in V-Tamer. It is over 200 pages so I will get it all eventually, but I'd like to know what everyone would find more useful for the wiki first. --devkyu (talk) 12:20, 17 January 2015 (CST)

Image Uploads
As of late there has been quite a few users uploading images who obviously have not read the Rules page. As well as two users consistantly uploading the same image in excess of ten times in a row. THIS IS DUMB. STOP DOING THIS. Thank you. --devkyu (talk) 03:41, 16 June 2014 (CDT)

Main Page redesign needed
Hi guys, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the main page design needs to change. It's too wide to work in the new skin in a 1280px wide laptop display. (fairly common) It needs to be made thinner. Changing the skin isn't really a solution either.Dkpat (talk) 19:07, 20 February 2014 (CST)
 * The Main Page needs a complete reboot period; it's been more the less the same for like 6+ years and all the more to fit in with this new skin. --Ainz ( talk 02:02, 21 February 2014 (CST)
 * So.. does anyone have any suggestions or ideas for this? Dkpat (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2014 (CST)

Well, first off we can cut the Watch Along and Digimon Websites. Tasks might be better suited to its own page, or even being integrated into the Community Portal here. I like the Featured Article, but the Featured Image is always so buried, do we really need it? The Digimon Dictionary updates (and the feed) could be condensed - why not just have the pictures for the most recent 3/5? So really, we could just condense it down and reformat it. Maybe something like except pretty --Koroku (talk) 02:29, 6 March 2014 (CST)
 * Has anyone started on a sample page? If not, I'll try to start one out for you all. (Since I'm not really part of the community, I don't really want to make it myself) Dkpat (talk) 11:51, 1 May 2014 (CDT)

Hi everyone. I'm going to push for the default skin to be changed to neowikimon now. Dkpat (talk) 12:48, 12 July 2015 (CDT)
 * I've designed a Main Page to go along with the neowikimon skin, just aiming to fully complete it before Wikimon's 10th birthday. There are additional features that I'll explain about in more detail once it gets nearer its completion. --Ainz ( talk 14:42, 12 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Just noticed the MediaWiki update and the Neowikimon skin currently isn't displaying. --Ainz ( talk 19:41, 13 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Yeah. I requested an update to the server so that I could update my wiki, GSU to MW 1.25.1. It just so happens that the server PHP update can not run MW 1.23, which Wikimon was running on. So the server tech updated Wikimon to the new version... which coincidentally broke skins in a few ways. I'm working on fixing them as we speak. (I wish MediaWiki would stop messing with how skins work) Dkpat (talk) 23:52, 13 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Although the skin's fixed, several other problems have presented themselves. For example, the Main Page, as well as other protected pages currently cannot be edited by admins/bureaucrats, Special:SpecialPages is borked and User Preferences can't be customized; I'm not sure what other issues have arisen. --Ainz ( talk 23:40, 14 July 2015 (CDT)

Wikimon 10th Anniversary
Even though it's early mentioning it now, oddly (and scarily) enough, Wikimon's 10th anniversary is next year, so it's literally months away from now rather than years. What sort of ideas should we come up with in the very early stages of the long run-up to this major milestone? --Ainz ( talk 01:56, 7 February 2014 (CST)
 * ...Oh my god I feel so old. Wow, I don't even know. We're already getting a new layout/theme. I will try and think of something that could realistically be done and not be resource-intensive. I think maybe cleaning up or improving certain categories might be useful.--devkyu (talk) 02:15, 7 February 2014 (CST)
 * Maybe do a 10-month project or something. Like, starting in February 2015 we devote each month to a "big" project. One month could be cutting the number of stubs in half, or getting at least 10 pictures in each episode page or something. (It is almost 20 months tho, so we got time...) --Koroku (talk) 02:34, 6 March 2014 (CST)
 * Or even try to get to 10,000 pages or something; seems fitting for the 10th anniversary. --Ainz ( talk 07:32, 27 December 2014 (CST)
 * Well, we're just short of 8000, at the moment. If we manage to finish up all the missing card pages that will add a chunk to the total.--devkyu (talk) 16:06, 28 December 2014 (CST)

New Wikimon Theme
Hi guys, I'm dkpat or Dillion, and I'll be helping out with this process. :) I've created the theme for a few other wikis, so I do have experience with it. I'm hoping I can get some ideas of what everyone would like to see from a new design. Any particular things you don't like about the current skin, or features you'd like to see return? Dkpat (talk) 16:31, 9 June 2013 (CDT)
 * The background!! It's sooo annoying. (No offence, Ainz!) --Koroku (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2013 (CDT)

Also, could one of the other admins fix him so he's purple too? I dunno how you guys do it (: --Koroku (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2013 (CDT)
 * Personally a mid color or darker theme is generally nice. Easier on the eyes than HOLY CRAP WHITE EVERYWHERE. And I think Grandy knows how to make usernames into fabulous purple.--devkyu (talk) 16:55, 9 June 2013 (CDT)
 * I also think the background is annoying. Mostly due to the fact that it's animated, which may or may not be a distraction while "navigating" around the wiki. ~KinHikari 17:55, 9 June 2013 (CDT)
 * I generally agree with everyone; I'm not too fond of the animated background (mostly because of loading times for me though), and I'd like to keep a darker colour scheme as it's easier on the eyes. Something dark and not too saturated seems good to me I guess :) --Garmmon (talk) 19:59, 9 June 2013 (CDT)

So in general, stay dark colored and get rid of the animated background. I'm going to suggest staying with a purple/blue/black theme because it would be easiest for the rest of the wiki's content to not need to change colors. I'm also going to suggest keeping a fluid width skin (one that doesn't stop expanding at a certain point) Because (well A, I haven't done a fluid skin in a while) and I think Fluid widths are much nicer in a wiki because everyone is used to them and they fill the screen so much better. With those two factors in mind, It will probably be a fairly similar layout to the current skin, just updated to use rounded edges, and to be a bit larger. If anyone disagrees with any of that, please do tell me, I don't mind changing my ideas. :) Dkpat (talk) 12:07, 10 June 2013 (CDT) I suppose I can toss this out here, just to show some examples, but please, I really don't want to make another Fire Emblem Skin. and excuse Icaruspedia's terrible colors... They were thrust onto me. http://dkpat.net/skinwiki/ Dkpat (talk) 12:33, 10 June 2013 (CDT)
 * Hey everyone, I know it's been awhile, but I'm starting to finally begin my design, and I've got my inspiration set, but I'm probably going to need the help of a talented artist/photoshopper (one who is familiar with the Digimon series) Do we have any volunteers? Dkpat (talk) 15:25, 2 August 2013 (CDT)
 * I suggest Devkyu! --Koroku (talk) 13:48, 9 August 2013 (CDT)
 * The new theme's coming along nicely! But yeah, it's something different for change since the 3+ years after the fifth anniversary (sorry for the late reply, I've been "dead" for ages hehehe)--Ainz ( talk 02:54, 13 January 2014 (CST)

Hey guys! It's getting much closer to being finished now! :D Dkpat (talk) 14:58, 16 January 2014 (CST)
 * Like I said on FB, I looooooooove the header. Amazing job Dev! --Koroku (talk) 16:46, 17 January 2014 (CST)

Video
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTML5video Want? We could put up the openings/endings and stuff. :) I have this server we might as well use it. --Koroku (talk) 16:25, 9 June 2013 (CDT)

Name Consistency
Okay so long story short Bandai is being retarded (like this is anything new) and now there we have multiple romanizations for names piling up. We're just going to move some pages around for consistency and familiarity (Talk:Khaosmon). Main template might get adjusted a bit to properly reference where each official romanization comes from just to keep track of them of course, but can anyone think of titles that should get switched around? Currently it's likely Khaosmon -> Chaosmon (for Chaosmon Valdur Arm), RegVagimon -> RedVegimon (to match with Vegimon). I'm also in favor of moving GrandDracumon back to GranDracmon, since the latter predates the former, is more in line with the katakana, and was used in more media officially. There is also "Tunomon" which I can only find a single use of, versus like 13+ years of Tsunomon.--devkyu 00:54, 12 April 2013 (CDT)

HC Card Template
Is it possible to change the HC card template so that instead of making all the Japanese text inputtable via a separate template, you can input the Japanese text directly into the HC template itself? Because I think that would save a lot of trouble in the Special Abilities section, not having to make separate template pages for each different text that appears? --Garmmon 09:25, 6 April 2013 (CDT)
 * I think that would be a good idea. Since I doubt there will ever be any more changes to the main template at this point, maybe someone should make a duplicate(HC2) with a few tweaks that allows direct input? Someone that isn't me, because any template I touch that Ainz made explodes violently >.>;; --devkyu 00:54, 12 April 2013 (CDT)
 * I mostly work on the cards (if I even work on anything anymore lol), so I just wanted to know if this is still possible to implement? I think there's too many unique card texts that make creating templates for each one too cumbersome. I've tried fiddling with the template but coding is really not my strong suit :v --Garmmon (talk) 00:05, 14 July 2015 (CDT)
 * As in similar to how the Japanese for the card blurbs are inputted? --Ainz ( talk 02:01, 14 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Yup! something like that would be great :) --Garmmon (talk) 09:32, 14 July 2015 (CDT)
 * I've managed to alter the template with some slight modifications, mainly for the requirements section. For examples, here are the possible variables for the requirements (still need to write a documentation for it) and Re-41. I just need to modify HCO in a similar way, in addition to the categories and stuff. --Ainz ( talk 21:51, 14 July 2015 (CDT)
 * I've finally modified HCO to allow for the Japanese raw text, tested it out on Sp-27. --Ainz ( talk 20:19, 15 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Ahh thank you for the help!! I've tried it out and it seems to be fine; I'll slowly go through and edit the cards eventually :) But I also noticed the Japanese evolution requirements seems to have broken (like in St-61), I'm not sure if having a colon in the template title will screw up anything but if not I can go ahead and make the template pages again --Garmmon (talk) 21:49, 16 July 2015 (CDT)
 * I've just added a documentation for the HC modification. I'll help you out too! --Ainz ( talk 22:16, 16 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Nice, that helps a lot! Thanks so much!! :D --Garmmon (talk) 11:03, 17 July 2015 (CDT)
 * No probs! ^^ --Ainz ( talk 12:46, 17 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Sorry for the trouble again :s do you think it's possible to add in a small section in the template to write the illustrator's name? Since some cards illustrated by different people have the artists' names on them. Though I was thinking about this more for the Jintrix/Digica Taisen templates since those cards do state the illustrator for each card (even if I can't find the different illustrators for digica taisen for heck...)--Garmmon (talk) 21:44, 20 July 2015 (CDT)
 * I've added a section for the ilustrator's name to HC, I just need to add it to the Jintrix & Digica Taisen templates. --Ainz ( talk 01:58, 21 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Thank you for all the help!! >< --Garmmon (talk) 20:34, 21 July 2015 (CDT)
 * Would it be possible to change the HC template so that the Japanese side for the 'ext' field can be inputted manually instead of using templates? Because including the support effects mean there would be a lot of new templates that have to be created :( Thank you! --Garmmon (talk) 13:35, 19 June 2016 (CDT)
 * I've added an "extj" field for the raw Japanese text. --Ainz ( talk 15:19, 19 June 2016 (CDT)
 * Nice, thanks so much for the help! --Garmmon (talk) 05:27, 20 June 2016 (CDT)
 * Sorry for the trouble again; would it be possible to add an 'ext2j' field as well? Thank you! --Garmmon (talk) 11:43, 25 June 2016 (CDT)
 * Added "ext2j" and "ext3j". --Ainz ( talk 13:05, 25 June 2016 (CDT)
 * Thanks for the help!! (edit: there seems to be a problem where an empty '' would show up when there isn't any ext2; example at Sx-8. would it be possible to fix that too? Sorry and thank you!)--Garmmon (talk) 12:41, 26 June 2016 (CDT)
 * Fixed. --Ainz ( talk 10:53, 29 June 2016 (CDT)

Template pages to delete/Card Game Alpha template
I realised that I couldn't edit the following template pages due to constant edit conflicts; could any of the admins help to delete them? Thank you! Template:Destroyed_VoiceK Template:Inferno_GateK Template:Golden_Tri-Horn_AttackK Template:Down_TornadoK Also, would it be possible to change the Card Game Alpha (AE) card template to allow for japanese input (similar to the HC template)? Thank you and sorry for the trouble! --Garmmon (talk) 11:27, 2 August 2016 (CDT)

Game/V-pet info and profiles
I've been testing out some tables for Digimon game/v-pet info here: User:Garmmon/Sandbox3 The game ones are quite messy but the v-pet ones still look relatively ok. Just a few concerns; Either way, my main motivation for this is that the Digimon pages' image galleries are getting a bit messy, so I thought to divide it up so that the v-pet/game images would be with the game info, and the rest of the gallery can be sorted into Toei/Bandai/Game Art/Misc (maybe in separate rows/tables/tabs). Sorry I'm talking a lot for someone who can't really do much, but I just thought to ask if there are any opinions on these matters (game info and image gallery) in general? --Garmmon (talk) 14:33, 4 August 2016 (CDT)
 * It might be a lot of unique templates to make? I only know a bit on how to make tables so I'm mostly clueless on how to make them into templates. I'm not sure if separate tables for each game might be too excessive and if there's a better way to display them?
 * If the tables are ok, should they contain Japanese info too (aside from profiles)? I know it's not a priority, but just wondering since Japanese people do refer to this site
 * Should the game info be on the respective game pages or on the Digimon's page? I like comparing all the same Digimon's info on one page myself, but I'm afraid it might make the page a bit too heavy (unless it is split into subpages, but that's probably too much work); even now I've seen complaints about wikimon being heavy to load already.
 * Info for some games might be a bit hard to dig out now without having the game on hand. That's partly the reason I'd like to have them all in one place, but that'll take a lot of time.