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Attribute or Type?
Although this parameter has currently been referred to as "Type", the kanji used for it is the same as what is used for the Digimon parameter. Should we use "Attribute" or continue using "Type"? --Ainz ( talk 09:22, 21 July 2016 (CDT)

AppLink Uniqueness?
Should the different AppLink have their own page, or instead they should be merged with their respective base Appmon page (e.g. DoGatchmon Plus Dokamon just considered as DoGatchmon, or even a different kind of DoGatchmon within the same page)? In my case, I definetely opt for the latter. As far as I've seen of Cyber Arena, any Appmon can be combined with any other one by AppLink, so doesn't this take away their required uniqueness in order to be considered as a separate Digimon species? Just a thought. In any case I think it is an unprecedented case within the franchise. What do you think on this matter guys? --Shadow Shinji (talk) 11:35, 20 September 2016 (CDT) That being said I would not consider forms that result from this unique species since this seems more like an advanced form of AppLink that only superficially resembles actual AppFusion. Chimera-gui (talk) 16:54, 9 December 2016 (CST)
 * idk about the others, but I agree with treating Applinked Appmon as just as extension of the original; so far they don't even have any differences from the original except another Appmon tagging along and being able to use its attacks? --Garmmon (talk) 09:17, 21 September 2016 (CDT)
 * Since AppLink is possible between all Appmon I think we should treat it as a general Appmon ability. Having the process being described on the Appmon page should suffice. ShikaSS (talk) 10:58, 21 September 2016 (CDT)
 * I also agree, the only form of Applinkng we should be really concerned with, espeically now, is App-fusion. As for stuff like card pages e.g. Dogatchmon Plus Dokamon, we could still have a category for cards with that name, but make it a subcategory of the original's. --Ainz ( talk 11:15, 21 September 2016 (CDT)
 * There seems to be a special kind of AppLink, based on this video. "Chou Gattai (超合体)" is what it's called but I think we'd rather wait for more info about it. Just wanted to throw it out there.ShikaSS (talk) 05:31, 1 December 2016 (CST)
 * Strictly speaking, we've already seen this in the anime with Gatchmon getting both Dokamon's fists when Eri was introduced and later Roleplaymon's sword, shield, and cape when the Appmon had their contest.

Chou Gattai AppLink
I feel like these "Chou Gattai (超合体)" AppLinks mentioned above are noteworthy enough to at least be mentioned on their respective Appmon's pages. As it stands, the only way to find them is to pour through all the cards and Appmon Chips on their respective pages. (Except for Gatchmon Plus Ropuremon, which isn't mentioned on any page on the entire wiki...) I would like to add a Chou Gattai AppLink section to each Appmon's page, listing their available Chou Gattai AppLinks, if that is acceptable? I feel it would make that information more readily available to people using this Wiki. There are also some of these Chou Gattai AppLinks that can evolve/AppFuse directly from the Appmon who make up the base Appmon in the card game. I wonder if they should be listed separately in the evolutions section? I went ahead and editted Gatchmon's page as a sort of proof of concept, to show what I mean. If this is acceptable, I can go ahead and do this for all the Appmon. If there is anything I need to change, feel free to let me know. I had also considered just adding the Chou Gattai AppLinks to the Evolutions section directly, with (Chou Gattai AppLink) or (Applink). If something like that may be better? KiraraKidohara (talk) 17:22, 23 April 2022 (CDT)
 * The Appmon Chip Encyclopedia makes it very clear that Chou Gattai AppLink is only a visual modification of regular Applink since clicking the Chou Gattai AppLink chips just goes to the original base Appmon's species page (e.g. clicking the Dosukomon Plus Navimon chip goes to base Dosukomon's species page) and Applink itself was accepted as a general Appmon ability and thus AppLinks were deemed not unique enough to be listed. Please revert everything you just did until someone in charge allows this. Chimera-gui (talk) 00:30, 24 April 2022 (CDT)
 * Oh. I thought the above was saying that they were considered not unique enough to have their own pages. I didn't see anything saying they weren't unique enough to even be listed anywhere... I thought them not being listed made the Appmon sections seem incomplete, since they are relevant information. Seems weird to not have them so much as mentioned anywhere, since they do have unique designs. It's just lacking information for the sake of lacking information. But, I'll undo it tomorrow, then. It's getting late here. Before I go to bed, is there someone in charge in particular that I'm supposed to ask about this? KiraraKidohara (talk) 01:07, 24 April 2022 (CDT)
 * I decided to go ahead and start tonight, and finished undoing the edits before bed. So, the pages are back to normal, as per your request. I still want to make clear that I think by removing this information, I have made the pages less useful, and have removed accurate and relevant information. I think listing these unique AppLinks would be beneficial to these pages, which is why I added the info in the first place. I wasn't trying to undermine anyone, I just thought I was adding useful info to the page, like any other edit. I am sorry if I wasn't supposed to. I guess this section is now my formal request to be permitted to add this information to the relevant pages, as I see it as worthwhile information that users would appreciate having easier access to. If there is a more appropriate place to ask for said permission, I would appreciate being pointed in that direction, please. KiraraKidohara (talk) 01:37, 24 April 2022 (CDT)
 * Hmmm, it looks like we don’t have an Applink page here. That seems like it’d be a better place to list Chou Gattai so they’d all be together just as the DigiXros page lists Digixroses together. Would that be acceptable to you? Chimera-gui (talk) 03:56, 24 April 2022 (CDT)
 * Personally, I still think them being listed on their related Appmon's pages somehow would be the best option, since it is relevant information about those Appmon, but I would be very happy as long as the information was readily and easily available somewhere on this wiki. I have been using this wiki for many years, long before I became an editor here, and I have always found these unique AppLinks being unlisted to be extremely disappointing. Which is why I tried to add them yesterday. I imagined other Appmon fans, like myself, would appreciate that information being easier to find.
 * But, as for making the AppLink page, I am a pretty new editor here. I wouldn't even begin to know how to do that. The only pages I've ever made is simple stuff like Digital Monster Vital Bracelet Attributes and Levels and similar pages used for v-pet Jogress reference. I imagine a page on AppLinking would require more than just a list like that. KiraraKidohara (talk) 04:11, 24 April 2022 (CDT)
 * How is this: AppLink? KiraraKidohara (talk) 04:42, 24 April 2022 (CDT)

I don't mean to seem argumentative or anything, but I am very slow at forming my thoughts properly, so it just occurred to me that what you're saying basically boils down to: Gatchmon Plus Ropuremon is just a Gatchmon, not a separate Appmon, and therefore it shouldn't be referenced on Gatchmon's page at all. (I understand that is an exaggeration of your point.) But, shouldn't the opposite be true? If Gatchmon Plus Ropuremon is just Gatchmon, isn't Gatchmon's page the 1 place it should have its info, just like Shadow Shinji mentioned above? When you first told me to undo my edits, you said "AppLinks were deemed not unique enough to be listed", but that is not what the above discussion seemed to deem from what I'm reading. The above discussion was about whether they should have their own pages, and the idea of including them on the relevant pages was even brought up as an alternative. I'm not trying to argue, just trying to thoroughly explain what I mean, since I sometimes have trouble explaining things. My edits last night were faulty. In retrospect, including them in the evolution section was just me overthinking things. I should have just kept it a simple list of Chou Gattai AppLinks. Again, the point of this wall of text was just to better explain my point, after having time to think it through more. You said I should wait for someone in charge. Ainz was a part of the above discussion, and they are a bolded user, so I guess they qualify? So, I am also going to bring this up to them, to try and get their opinion as well, since they were a part of the original conversation. I hope that is okay? I am not trying to "go over your head" or anything like that. This just seems like the most logical course of action considering your own suggestion. I am still open to dialogue with you as well. I'm not storming off. Just bringing more voices into the conversation. KiraraKidohara (talk) 07:16, 24 April 2022 (CDT)
 * You know what, nevermind. I don't handle stressful situations well, and this has had me sick all night... I give up. I don't have any hard feelings, I even understand your points, and think maybe my idea could've used some more refinement, now. But, I just can't handle confrontation/debate well... It's too hard on me. I'm not upset with you, or anything, I just can't handle situations like this... They make me sick. Sorry. Thanks for your help. I'm just glad these variants are acknowledged somewhere on the wiki now. I just have to stop trying, or I'm just going to stay sick like this. It's nothing you did, it's just me. You were very cordial. But, even just trying to explain myself is too much for me. Sorry for being a nuisance. KiraraKidohara (talk) 09:54, 24 April 2022 (CDT)

Regarding Appmon Romanization
I've been noticing lately that some of the rōmajis that the anime of Appli Monsters has been providing to us so far have some incosistencies, being the most notable ones Ropuremon, Scorpmon, and more recently, Weatherdoramon. Let's analyze each one:
 * Ropuremon: basically comes from rōrupureingu, which is the literal transliteration in Japanese of Roleplaying. This doesn't make sense to me. It is as fucked up as Lilismon, which instead of a romanization, seems more like a pronunciation tip.
 * Scorpmon: A misspeling of scope, which is clearly the concept in which its design is based on. So I don't understand the need of this awkard misspeling...
 * Weatherdoramon: probably the most alarming one. There a lots of -dramon (ドラモン) alongside the entire franchise, but still they have romanized the name as -doramon for some reason.

As far as we know, like a half of the existing Appmon's names (without taking God Appmon into account) are based on Japanese concepts (Yadomon, Resshamon), while almost the other half is based on English words (Dressmon, Hackmon), and there are just a few of them that are based in words from any other languages (like Dezipmon or Vegasmon). My point is that the Japanese ones that have made an appearance in the show so far, are at least properly spelled, while there are others from English origin like the ones I've mentioned, that not exactly. And considering that Bandai is very fond of Engrish sometimes, do we want to follow this way of naming strictly? In my opinion, we should wait till more potential products come out and later decide something, but anyways I'd love to hear your thoughts. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 10:38, 8 March 2017 (CST)
 * Is it really that much of an issue? It's a name for a fictional creature, I don't think it matters whether or not it is written correctly. Oh, and "ropure" is an actual slang abbreviation for "rōrupureingu" so it's probably not a mistake. ShikaSS (talk) 15:54, 8 March 2017 (CST)
 * I feel like it should be noted that Scorpmon could be a reference to the, a sniper weapon from the Roman Empire. Chimera-gui (talk) 16:46, 8 March 2017 (CST)