User talk:TMS

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay wassup chum.

- Not much. I just made a user page so I could ask people in chat which Program card I should feature in my next Tactics article.

Pyramid Digimoji
Does the Digimoji in the passage to the pyramid ("Pyramiddo ni iku michidayo abunai.") appear in episode 19 of Digimon Adventure? Just strugging to find it. --Ainz ( talk 10:48, 12 March 2016 (CST)

- I would assume so. It would have to be 19, 20, or both.

Update your e-mail
Can you please update your email? I keep getting bouncebacks from the stuff that you watch... thanks --Koroku (talk) 23:57, 25 February 2017 (CST)

- It's fixed. I didn't realize I was supposed to be getting emails.


 * Thanks! --Koroku (talk) 18:22, 1 March 2017 (CST)

Admin
Wanna be an admin? :) --Koroku (talk) 12:20, 9 March 2017 (CST)


 * Well... Thank you very much for offering! Do you mind my asking why? I assume it has some bearing on this whole attack descriptions controversy. If I did become an admin, what would my duties be?
 * Lol, no, it has nothing to do with that. I just keep random tabs on the wiki and when I see an editor that I think is doing a good job, and is pretty active on the wiki, I like to offer them adminship. The main duty is to stay calm and collected, and help keep trouble users to a minimum. Plus, HOPEFULLY, we're going to open back up registration after the server move, so there would also be the anti-spam requirement. :) --Koroku (talk) 12:48, 9 March 2017 (CST)


 * I wouldn't mind helping out, but it's kind of an awkward time, considering I'm currently in the midst of an argument. I'd kind of like to hold off until some kind of resolution is reached. Unless my becoming an admin is the resolution, but I'm sure some would see that as an abuse of power right out of the gate. --TMS 14:28, 9 March 2017 (EST)
 * That user is gone. --Koroku (talk) 14:10, 9 March 2017 (CST)
 * Oh. Well in that case, I'd be happy to come aboard! Thank you again for the opportunity. --TMS 16:01, 9 March 2017 (EST)
 * Welcome aboard matey. What's an e-mail I can throw under your name? --Koroku (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2017 (CST)
 * Same address: taylorsmith1051@gmail.com
 * I actually can't see user e-mails. :) --Koroku (talk) 16:43, 9 March 2017 (CST)

Non-canon games
Could you take a look at this please? --Shadow Shinji (talk) 16:04, 20 September 2017 (CDT)

List of Digimon
Could I ask for your opinion on this? Thank you.--Shadow Shinji (talk) 12:47, 6 November 2018 (CST)

Url template
Just as a heads up, the url template seems to be removing the colon from https:// URLs based on Digicore Interface. Chimera-gui (talk) 10:50, 15 January 2019 (CST)
 * I'm not really the person to talk to about that. I've never worked on the templates. --TMS 20:11, 15 January 2019 (EST)

Troubling User
This user called "Luph" is constantly deleting useful information from certain pages and in general, it usually makes quite problematic contributions or of doubtful use for the website. It's a recurrent activity that I've been watching for a while now. Please, take a look at this. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 17:03, 31 March 2019 (CDT)
 * I've been following along with changes made to the wiki, and haven't seen anything very problematic about Luph's edits. As you know, I agreed with him with on how rejected names and names applied to discarded Digimon designs should be handled. If you have any specific concerns about other issues, you can tell me what they are and I'll see what I think. --TMS (talk) 19:04, 31 March 2019 (EST)
 * Hello TMS. Could I ask for your opinion on this. It's not the only case regarding an X-Antibody or a subspecies like that one. How do you feel about it? I'm not sure if evolution should be understood in such a wide and vague point of view and in a retroactive way to be honest. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 14:15, 20 June 2019 (CDT)
 * I don't object to it, as long as it's mechanically possible. --TMS (talk) 23:19, 20 June 2019 (EST)
 * The evolution is possible, so counts. At some point I plan to go through every X form and add their missing card evos, though if this other guy does it before me, that's good. The card is named "Greymon". That means it can be used for any card that says "Greymon" for its evolution. It counts for more than that too, because stuff like Otamamon (Red) and Agumon (Black) also share the card evolution with Otamamon and Agumon, etc. They share their card name with the original, so share their card evolutions.Muur (talk) 23:15, 20 June 2019 (CDT)

Meicoomon (Mutated)
I apologize for my recent edits of the Tailmon page, and have made efforts to correct other errors regarding it. However, with Meicoomon, shouldn't Meicoomon (Mutated)/メイクーモン(豹変時) be considered a species or at the least a sub-species like Magna Garurumon (Detached)? It seems to be treated as something different than the original Meicoomon, as seen here: https://gallery.withthewill.net/albums/userpics/10002/tri5_bd_largebook_4meikomeicoo.jpg Xm0c (talk) 21:53, 23 August 2019 (CDT)
 * Wikimon don't treat the second MagnaGarurumon as a different Digimon either (nor the two Daemon for that matter).Muur (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2019 (CDT)
 * Right. Currently no page exists for it (it redirects to Maicoomon's page), which is why I undid the changes. So far the policy has been to leave Digimon that are usually treated as the same species as a single page, to save hassle and confusion. --TMS (talk) 23:02, 23 August 2019 (EST)
 * Okay then. I was going to ask why then Magna Garurumon (Detached) was listed on the Magna Garurumon page as a possible evolution, but they were just removed. Should a redirect at least me made for the Detached then? Xm0c (talk) 22:14, 23 August 2019 (CDT)
 * Yes, a redirect is a good idea. --TMS (talk) 23:24, 23 August 2019 (EST)

Dexmon's attacks
The description used by DMO for Dexmon's attacks are completely inaccurate. I could not find a video of the "Process 0" attack but I do have one of the "Process F", and I can tell you that the real attack and the DMO attack are totally different. In the real attack Dexmon puts its hands on the ground, creates an area of glowing data an then erect a bunch of energy pillars from the ground that pierce the opponent killing them instantly. That's why you shouldn't use DMO as a reference, since they don't work with official information.

Source: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26568252 (Battle starts at about 22:00) --Convergencia Digital (talk) 22:18, 4 November 2019 (CST)
 * not to mention that if they got wrong the "process F" attack, then they are no longer a cradible source to use in this website, and the description for the "Process 0" attack should be deleted.--Convergencia Digital (talk) 22:21, 4 November 2019 (CST)
 * I mean that's just classic Digimon. Read Alphamon's DRB profile for Digitize of Soul, then look at the anime or games. He shoots Green beams in those, and yet he's supposed to summon a monster. As long as the source says the description is from Masters, no one will get confused.Muur (talk) 22:23, 4 November 2019 (CST)
 * yes, but that's on its official profile and the way the attack works has already been claryfied on the Digital Monster Artbook ver.20th, where it says that the Digitalize of Soul only activates that effect when alphamon is in a numerical disadvantage on battle. That's why we've never seen that part of the attack being used, but in this case we are basicly using a fanfic to describe how Dexmon's attacks work when we already have confirmation that they don't work the way this fanfics says.--Convergencia Digital (talk) 22:29, 4 November 2019 (CST)
 * Masters is an officially licensed game, so it does not count as fan fic and is as valid as the anime or Cyber Sleuth or whatever else. The attack is sourced to Masters.Muur (talk) 22:31, 4 November 2019 (CST)
 * Then could we at least put a description of how the actual attack works and leave the DMO description as an extra?--Convergencia Digital (talk) 22:42, 4 November 2019 (CST)
 * Not to mention that I just went to check if the DMO's descriptions of the attacks where actually those, and they0re not even similar. Process F: To Detect and acquire Digicore. Process 0: Degradation Digicore Obatined Process O. Source: https://dmowiki.com/Dexmon--Convergencia Digital (talk) 22:42, 4 November 2019 (CST)
 * Considering that the Digimon Masters attack descriptions (and other crappy English sources) are usually gibberish like that, I go by what the attacks actually look like. "Degradation Digicore Obatined [sic] Process O" tells you nothing about what the attack looks like, and barely tells you what the attack even does. I'm not sure what's in that NicoNico video, because I'll have to wait 20 minutes to see it, but if you want to add the description, feel free. Just use the MultiDesc template. --TMS (talk) 00:30 5 November 2019 (EST)

About card St-841
Hello, I would like to know why did you revert the changes I made to that card's description. The card itself doesn't say anything about "chrondigizoit", it just says that Dynasmon has a "super steel armor".--Convergencia Digital (talk) 13:10, 30 April 2020 (CDT)
 * As I explained in my note on the reversion, "super steel armor" is the kanji, but the furigana (the little kana above it that serves as the pronunciation guide) reads Chrondigizoit. In those cases, we go with the pronunciation specified by the furigana. I made the same mistake on another card a while back and had to have it pointed out to me by a senior mod. --TMS 14:23, 30 April 2020 (EST)
 * Thanks for the explanation!--Convergencia Digital (talk) 13:36, 30 April 2020 (CDT)

Digimon Chronicle X
Hello again! Why did you deleted the manga scans? :(--Convergencia Digital (talk) 15:40, 18 May 2020 (CDT)
 * Presumably because that would be allowing people to illegally obtain the manga for free by saving the pictures from wikimon. uploading manga scans goes against copywrite and could get wikimon in troubleMuur (talk) 15:41, 18 May 2020 (CDT)
 * I’m on my phone right now, but Muur is correct, it’s because of copyright issues. — TMS

I got wrongfully blocked
The reason I was changing so many pages was because the information listed on the Digimon Accel page was wrong. It said that Omegamon X, Dukemon X, Ulforce X, Agumon X, Greymon X, MetalGreymon X, WarGreymon X, Triceramon X and WereGarurumon X apeeared in said v-pet, when in reality its their normal forms that actually did. So I was correcting every page that used this wrong information... and got blocked :/ hope I was able to clarify what happened so this doesn't happen again...--Convergencia Digital (talk) 22:21, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * this is triceramon X, this is weregarurumon x, this is ulforce x. not all of the ones you edited were wrong (at least according to the vpet sprite images)Muur (talk) 22:27, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * the greymon, metalgreymon, wargreymon, agumon are also used in other vpets with the x digimon according to D-Cyber Version 1.0, Digimon Pendulum X, Pendulum X 1.0, Digital Monster D-Cyber. looking at these lists that the images are used in, if they were all the original versions, it would mean that the debut of agumon X for example was in the Digital Monster X in vpets, which isnt the case. im quite sure all of the x forms you were removed were removed incorrectly.Muur (talk) 22:34, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * The digimon accel reused sprites from de pendulum x, but the digimon them selves where not their X counterpart. This can be corroborated by checking the Digimon Accel official page (the same one that's listed as a source in the Digimon Accel page)--Convergencia Digital (talk) 22:43, 20 May 2020 (CDT)


 * Your links dont work. anyway if they reuse agumons X's sprite... then that's using agumon X in that vpet. if they used agumon x's cyber sleuth model and said it was agumon, its not, its agumon X. the cards do this all the time, where they only list agumon X as "agumon". those sprites are of the X forms in the older vpets and they reused them.Muur (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * well looks like that may be the case for some of them. but you should make note of what youre doing before you do it since otherwise it can be seen as trolling. do you have a source for every digimon youre removing and saying is the regular form? cuz the fact they reused the X form sprites means you can see why people think theyre the x forms.Muur (talk) 22:49, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * here are the sources: http://web.archive.org/web/20090225101344/http://www10.channel.or.jp/digimon/accel/e_j.html, http://web.archive.org/web/20090225104455/http://www10.channel.or.jp/digimon/accel/e_e.html, http://web.archive.org/web/20090225103827/http://www10.channel.or.jp/digimon/accel/e_ng.html --Convergencia Digital (talk) 22:51, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * Every single X-Digimon I removed and mentioned above was becasue it was not listed as it's X variant in the official site.
 * you should've explained the errors first on the talk page before you made the edits, because from someone looking from afar it just seems like youre removing stuff for no reason and the fact bandai apparently reused x form sprites and then claimed theyre regular digimon - you can see why someone would think that you were trolling. had you posted on the talk page and then made the edits (or said in the edit log screen), no one could've questioned what you were doing (altho I would've posted on your talk page to say "stop removing the x forms" and what not, rather than blocking from the off. so yeah, as far as I can tell, bandai reused X Digimon in those vpets... then claimed theyre the real versions? unusual.Muur (talk) 22:57, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * I'll unblock you, since your position is arguable. It will be up for the mods to decide whether the Digimon should be counted as having the X-Antibody or not. But if you push back against a mod's edits again without explanation, you're going to get blocked again. --TMS 24:02, 21 May 2020 (EST)
 * I can see why it would have looked like trolling, but I have made even bigger changes a few days ago (such as practically remaking the pages for the X Antibody, Program X and Project Ark from the ground up) and no one batted an eye about it. I think that intantlly blocking me was a really hasty move. Also, I don't think the mistake was on claiming these where not their X variants, but insted on reusing the wrong sprites, since there still are X-Digimon that are listed as such in the main site (like garudamon x)

--Convergencia Digital (talk) 23:06, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * this is a really weird situation. I guess like he said, the higher ups will decide what version the digimon in those pets count as.Muur (talk) 23:10, 20 May 2020 (CDT)
 * Just to bring some additional information to the discussion, I also checked the Pendulum X page and in there its confirmed that the agumon from that v-pet its it's X variant (http://web.archive.org/web/20090323041323/http://www.digimon.channel.or.jp/chronicle/dm-01.html) . Also, I went to check if the digimon's name showed as an X variant or not in the V-Pet itself, and the "X-Antibody" part doesn't show up (here you can see that this person has an "Ulforce V-Dramon X", but in the v-pet, the name displayed is just "Ulforce V-Dramon": https://youtu.be/Uu4bQ7dKyDw?t=47). All of this, plus the fact that Garudamon X did have it's actual X-Antibody artwork displayed in the official site, leads me to believe that these digimon where always intended to be their normal forms and not their X counterpart. And that they presumably made a mistake by using the wrong sprites, since nowhere it is explicitly stated that any of these digimon where their X variant. Also, next time I'll be sure to contact an admin before making big changes.--] Convergencia Digital]([[User talk:Convergencia Digital|talk) 23:25, 20 May 2020 (CDT)

About Flare Lizamon
Oh, I did n’t know that it has been modified, it was originally modified with reference to the source, I ’m sorry. Donkey22800

I have a question
Why Zubamon's Evolution line is not the main Evolution line on Digital Monster Ver.20th ?? But Bryweludramon wes evolved from Raiji Ludomon on Digimon Pendulum Ver.20th,This did not cancel bold. Donkey22800
 * thats not how it works. a vpet isnt a profile or an on screen storyline evolution.Muur (talk) 01:46, 21 May 2020 (CDT)

Evolution from the Card Game
Rather than putting "Any Digimon of any random color in the Card Game that no one understands how it works" isn't it better to list the Digimon for who they may evolve? It looks better visually and no one needs to open another page to see who evolves to who. I wish I could do that, but I don't want to start without an administrator being aware.Sam (Talk)
 * We did that previously, but it made the list too long and cluttered, and it would take forever to update with the release of each new set. Plus, most of the evolutions are, as you say, random. The lists will be more concise and ultimately more useful if the evolutions specifically mentioned are those with a degree of intentionality to them. There's some discussion about this in the Community Portal. What I've been doing is a compromise between not listing the random evolutions at all and doing what you're suggesting. --TMS 12:44, 28 June 2020 (EST)

Digimon Xros Wars (Manga)
Why are you removing this evolution? Xros Heart performs a Xros Open on ZeedMillenniumon and all these Digimon appear as a result. So in theory it applies too. Also DarkKnightmon (Lilithmom) is anyways part of the gestalt since the beginning. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 04:52, 21 July 2020 (CDT)
 * Because Bagramon was sealing them in his castle, and they weren't part of the DigiXros between DarkKnightmon, Shademon, and Millenniumon. They just happened to be absorbed by ZeedMillenniumon like Taiki and the others were. --TMS 12:46, 21 July 2020 (EST)
 * How do you know that or when is this stated? I have no clue at the moment. Also Taiki and co. weren't absorbed, they decided to go to the core of Zeed to rescue Nene and fight Bagramon. --Shadow Shinji (talk) 11:57, 21 July 2020 (CDT)
 * From chapter 21.
 * Kotone: "What's that gigantic thing!?"
 * Taiki: "They came out after being separated from ZeedMillenniumon!?"
 * Lilimon: "Hey! Isn't that...!?"
 * Sunflowmon: "Yeah! Those were the ones who were crystallized in the Pandemonium, right?"
 * Bagramon: "...What... Unbelievable!"
 * Ballistamon: "Bagramon!?"
 * Bagramon: "Those were the Digimon that I've been sealing in the Pandemonium... the Digimon that have mutated after being affected by the evil side of human hearts, such as anger and hatred...! They grew by feeding off the despairing hearts of humans who felt that there was no future left... It took me all I had just to seal in these beasts! Now... we face something even worse than destruction! All life will be burnt alive by these cursed flames for all eternity! Before that happens... I wanted to at least put all souls to rest! You people... have just done the unthinkable!" --TMS 13:17, 21 July 2020 (EST)
 * Oh you're right! Sorry for the confusion then. Anyways, the original DigiXros that leads to ZeedMillenniumon plus MoonMillenniumon is Millenniumon + DarkKnightmon (Lilithmon). --Shadow Shinji (talk) 13:06, 21 July 2020 (CDT)
 * Thanks, I'll add it. Surprised no one has before. --TMS 14:20, 21 July 2020 (EST)

Omegamon in Anode/Cathode
Hello. I have been looking for reliable sources regarding Omegamon's appearance as a Variable in Anode/Cathode for some time. Even though many places state he was called "GaruruGreymon" in the game, the only in-game image I have ever found clearly shows this is wrong. This was probably some misunderstanding, since we know for a fact he was planned to be called "GaruruGreymon" at some point. This game site also shows his Variable, stating it's a rare one only obtained through an event, which may explain why it is so hard to find concrete evidence. Same goes for Goddramon. I am looking forward to confirm this once my Anode/Cathode game guides arrive. If it even shows up there. Anyway, I do think it's safe to include his appearance as a Variable in the pages. Thoughts? ShikaSS (talk) 01:00, 1 September 2020 (CDT)
 * The claim on wikimon that it was called garurugreymon in that game was removed a long time ago by me, as I found the same research you did. And wow, I didn't realise Wikimon didnt list him as appearing in those games.Muur (talk) 01:34, 1 September 2020 (CDT)
 * I was referring to the recent edit by Rothbart. Glad to know someone can corroborate. ShikaSS (talk) 01:53, 1 September 2020 (CDT)

Modification of Deathmon page with Digimon Adventure : - Episode 18 element
Hello, I saw that the changes I made on the Deathmon page had been removed. I don't see why they got deleted when Digimon Adventure 2020 Episode 18 proves what I wrote.

After the destruction of Nidhoggmon by Omegamon, the energy contained in the evil digimon of Ultimate level is released and causes the awakening of a dark silhouette and this one given the clues it shows us (the single yellow eye that s' opens) indicates it's Deathmon.

Just after we see a sequence with Devimon turning around then again the eye then again Devimon who nods. So in the logic of the previous episodes, especially the one where we evoke the sacred digimon, it is logical to think that Deathmon led the army of darkness and that Devimon is one of his lieutenant.

So I ask that the changes I made be restored to the Deathmon page.

Cordially.
 * it's not him. It could be a pre-evolved form but that wouldn't make it deathmon.Muur (talk) 08:51, 4 October 2020 (CDT)
 * Right. It appears to be some kind of eyeball creature with tentacles, whereas Deathmon lacks tentacles and has arms, legs, wings, and horns. --TMS 12:48, 4 October 2020 (EST)

redirect removal
this is to notify that the redirects are necessary due to there being confusion on which term refers to which one. if one knows their name as only "4 holy digimons", they need to see which group it may possibly refer to. if someone knows their name as only "holy beasts", then they would search that, which is why the redirect becomes needed.Mussharraf Hossen Shoikot (talk) 14:31, 8 December 2020 (CST)
 * https://wikimon.net/Category:Holy_Beast_Type is a type, so the term cannot redirect to a group. in addition "four holy digimons" is a term you made up - and there is not a single piece of japanese media that uses "digimons". "digimons" is a term the dub sometimes uses: plural doesnt exist in japanese so they would never use the term "digimons", and "four holy digimons" is not a term the dub has used. Oh and Megidramon isnt even a holy digimon, its literally a dark dragon of destruction. no holy powers there. as for "great dragon", even when theyre on their own they say "i am a member of the four great dragons", such as the magnadramon in all star rumble.Muur (talk) 14:44, 8 December 2020 (CST)

except redirects are for fanmade terms and or misspellings redirecting to the closest possible meaning or referenceMussharraf Hossen Shoikot (talk) 03:30, 2 February 2021 (CST)
 * ...what fan made terms?Muur (talk) 03:41, 2 February 2021 (CST)

Gundramon
Why did you remove this, Any Machine Type Digimon, from Gundramon's page? HenryWong122 (talk) 22:10, 30 March 2021 (CDT)
 * Those are Appearance Requirements, not Evolution Requirements. We don't count them as evolutions. --TMS (talk) 00:04, 31 March 2021 (EST)
 * if we did youd get some hilarious shit like gankoomon evolving into the sistermon.Muur (talk) 06:25, 31 March 2021 (CDT)

Gammamon Evos Teasing Page Creation
Hello, I was just passing by to ask if it was possible to create in advance pages for the 4 Adult level and the Perfect level of Gammamon which fell today (I know we don't have the names yet but we have the designs ...) On the other hand I do not know how to make pages on the site, I tried several times but each time it's a mess so I posted the images, the one who wants to make the pages and who knows how to do it, I him willingly leaves the task of creating them.
 * I'm probably the wrong person to ask, since I don't bother much with coding on the site. I wouldn't think that there's any way to make and save pages without actually posting them. It's probably best to wait until we have the names. --TMS 19:52, 30 September 2021 (EST)
 * Agreed. Better to wait until we get the names, which will be shortly. --Ainz ( talk 19:28, 30 September 2021 (CDT)