Talk:Ultimate

Lv.7 Digimon Card Game
I personally feel that the Lv.7 Digimon from the current TCG should be considered also Super Ultimate de facto for organizational purposes at least. Otherwise, they would just be considered stronger Lv.6 like previous card games. How do you guys feel about it? --Shadow Shinji (talk) 11:32, 21 April 2022 (CDT)
 * it still lists them as ultimates so we can't. Super ultimate class might work like how the old cards says Shoutmon was lv3 but had no actual level so we said he was child class rather than child level. We can't say they're super ultimate though it doesn't say that in the level box. The vpets use lv7 and lv8 too we can't just claim they're su they're not. Jesmon gx being lv8 would present a problem doing that we'd have to invent a level name Muur (talk) 12:16, 21 April 2022 (CDT)
 * Oh I forgot for a second they were listed as Ultimate too, my bad. About the potential Lv.8, which I don't personally see coming after Merciful Mode being Lv.7, well generally speaking even outside of the card game, since Super Ultimate entails everything beyond Ultimate by definition, they would be SU as well de facto, in my opinion. Stronger SU if you will. I mean, ZeedMillenniumon has been for a while now.--Shadow Shinji (talk) 12:23, 21 April 2022 (CDT)
 * if it didn't say level names and only said lv7 I probably would've been fine with it. The problem was that it says ultimate in the level field. As for zeed it theoretically could be lv8 but for now the sole lv8 Digimon is jesmon gx. The lv7 card game Digimon will get it eventually new century slaps su onto anything that evolves from a mega. Bit annoying actually Muur (talk) 13:10, 21 April 2022 (CDT)
 * Does it particularly matter if the Lv.7 Digimon in the card game say that they're Ultimate? I mean, even this very page acknowledges "in the broader canon Digimon claimed to be of such a level are considered to be of the Ultimate level." But I think a simple solution would be to just have a second list underneath the current one, with a note stating that the following Digimon are considered Level 7 and Level 8 in certain media but have yet to be referred to specifically as a Super Ultimate.--Yamato-san (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2022 (CDT)
 * obviously it matters. it is exclusively for digimon that are 超究極体 not 究極体. dont shove head canons in just cuz you like them. armor digimon show as lv4 and say armor. the level box has their level in it. you would have to include ultimate2 from the ds games and burst mode from digimon masters as well.Muur (talk) 02:18, 2 June 2022 (CDT)
 * I'm not shoving in head canons. I'm just saying that Level 7 and Level 8 could at least be acknowledged on this page due to appearing in certain media, much like how the Super Ultimate stage itself is acknowledged regardless of its arguable status as a true stage. Again, I'm just citing what's already written on the page itself, which specifically refers to Super Ultimate as "a higher seventh level," which is exactly what the card game has.--Yamato-san (talk) 06:22, 2 June 2022 (CDT)