Wikimon:Community Portal

Main Page Error
When I try to view the Main Page as a guest, I often see just the "This is a cached copy..." placeholder page. This has also occurred in the past, but now it seems to happen almost daily. I have to log in and make an "edit" without any changes to clear the page's cache. Then it's alright, but on the next day, the aforementioned page appears again instead. In the many hours before the clearing of the cache, guests who try to access "wikimon.net" or click on the site's logo merely get to see a placeholder page, which makes a bad impression, I think. --Grandy02 11:39, 5 March 2013 (CST)


 * That is strange. What browser are you using? I tested it on both Chrome and Firefox and haven't seen that particular error pop up. Do you know if anyone else has the same problem? --devkyu 15:05, 6 March 2013 (CST)
 * I get the same problem, on Chrome. In fact, I get it even when I try to see the main page while logged in, not even as a guest. Friends of mine have had the same problem, too. -- Blaze Dragon 15:20, 6 March 2013 (CST)
 * I doubt it is a browser-related issue, but at least today said page doesn't appear. --Grandy02 09:24, 7 March 2013 (CST)
 * Today the error occured again, even though I edited the Main Page earlier this day. I tried different browsers, the result remains the same. --Grandy02 08:10, 8 March 2013 (CST)
 * Only the main page? --Koroku 17:16, 20 March 2013 (CDT)

RPG & Masters as references and evos in general
A new user has added a number of evolutions from Digimon RPG & Masters to articles. But before removing (or keeping) those all, I think there needs to be a general consensus on this issue. The games have not only been used as refs for evolutions, but also for other things such as attacks (e.g. Chaos Piemon and Gizmon: XT). I think the there's nothing more than the little hint on the Main Page that tells users not to use the RPG & Masters as refs, it is easy to overlook. It should either be disallowed to use them as refs in general (not just evos) or they should be treated like the other games.

On evolutions, I think those lists need an overhaul. Especially when they are lot of "withs" in the list, they don't look that nice. With a table template, the "withs" could be organized in a second column. --Grandy02 05:12, 10 November 2012 (CST)


 * As someone who's not been on this site for that long, it feels arbitrary to accept some games as sources and not others. As Digimon is a multi-continuity franchise, it's not really a duty for fans to decide which continuities are appropriate and which are not; they all have an equal status of being canon within their own bounds.--B14 07:35, 10 November 2012 (CST)
 * I think they are excluded because they are Korean games not published by Bandai or something. But personally, I have nothing against treating them like the other games, as they are still official Digimon media. Why should their evolutions be less notable than the many evos only relevant for a single card each? --Grandy02 13:36, 12 November 2012 (CST)
 * I don't particularly care either way. For the most part the games just seem to follow the most common evolution lines used by other media in the franchise, minus the odd "burst mode" evolutions. As long as they are properly referenced and used the correct names (Gubamon? fucking seriously), I don't mind it.--devkyu 21:05, 12 November 2012 (CST)
 * So, is this the final decision? Then the hint on the Main Page would have to be removed. --Grandy02 10:23, 16 November 2012 (CST)
 * A bit late to the discussion, but it's something that seems sensible in general: Split the evolution on the pages by the continuity from which they originate. Evolution (and the individual digimon for that matter) seems to work differently from universe to universe, so throwing them all together seems like the wrong move.--Ijffdrie 16:51, 23 January 2013 (CST)

Spambots Again
Even though e-mail confirmation has been introduced, the spambots are now almost as annoying as before. What e-mail addresses are they using? Is it possible to prevent confirmation for certain addresses? --Grandy02 06:18, 27 September 2012 (CDT)


 * That is something pawitp might know.--devkyu 16:15, 28 September 2012 (CDT)
 * I've done about everything that we can do before having to active each account by hand. --Koroku 19:07, 28 September 2012 (CDT)


 * Well, first off, I'd suggest installing AbuseFilter and using the ones on User:Devkyu/AntiSpam, including the one I just added since bots often use [[Image: links (you also need a message like this to explain it to readers).


 * It is also effective to inspect the referrer on accesses to certain pages. I find that sometimes bots are POSTing to the account creation page (look for "type=signup" in URL), or to edit pages or upload files, with a referrer that is just the domain name, / or /wiki/. These will always redirect to an actual page for real users, so these must be constructed requests.


 * Also, your list of DNS blacklists may need updating - here's what WikiFur uses. I suggest pinging from your server to see which are the fastest and arranging the list accordingly.

$wgEnableDnsBlacklist = true; $wgDnsBlacklistUrls = array( 'combined.abuse.ch.', 'xbl.spamhaus.org.', 'dnsbl-3.uceprotect.net.', 'dnsbl-2.uceprotect.net.', 'cbl.abuseat.org.', 'http.dnsbl.sorbs.net.' ); //, 'opm.tornevall.org.' );
 * 1) Use SORBS backlist - ordered by current speed
 * Incidentally, your MediaWiki version appears to be out of date, which is a security risk. (I need to update myself, but I have patched 1.17.5 for now, and the issues in that version were not too serious - but you have 1.17.0 right now.) GreenReaper 18:19, 29 September 2012 (CDT)
 * Okay, until someone manages to update the back end with everything GreenReaper recommended, can we just like... turn off registrations for a bit? Dozens of new spambots per DAY is getting completely ridiculous and we spend more time deleting and ban hammering than we do actually editing anything at this point.--devkyu 10:17, 25 October 2012 (CDT)
 * It's a pain, I know. We're still getting registrations ourselves, although I've managed to tamp down on their number and block their editing. You could add a notice on the front page giving prospective users an email address to contact, while keeping registered users able to register new accounts. If you're logged in, you can then just create another account and give it to them. GreenReaper 21:16, 25 October 2012 (CDT)

Something has to be done about this, I'm tired of opening the "Recent changes" page and seeing a dozen of spam pages (plus images) that have popped up since yesterday. KrytenKoro once suggested the following "Can you put in a requirement that you have the account for X days before inserting external links, or you have to be an admin to insert links without a recaptcha or quiz question?". Is that possible? --Grandy02 10:37, 19 March 2013 (CDT)

I agree. Could we just shut off new user registration until things are fixed up, and just have potential new users have to e-mail someone or require some sort of verification? --Tsum 21:59, 19 March 2013 (CDT)

User registration has been turned off. --Koroku 17:15, 20 March 2013 (CDT)

Character Pages
Okay, it's been a long time coming, but the various human character pages are kind of a huge, inconsistent mess. The current template (if we can even call it that) is rather limiting and doesn't really encompass a lot of information. An idea we had a while back was to make the template similar to the S-template used for digimon profiles (etymology, tabs, etc), but... that's kind of a huge, complicated monster. And Ainz hasn't been on in a while to beg to help out with it, so possibly something a bit simpler.

But before we try and make a better template, we should figure out what should go on the pages, in addition to what the current (inadequate) template currently has. Currently I've added an Image Gallery to Mikagura Mirei's page. The most "complete" page we have is probably similar to Yagami Taichi... although "Profile" seems to make little sense, so perhaps replace it with "Appearances" and move Profile up into a tab with biographical information like with the Digimon template. Anyone have any suggestions or other input? Go nuts!--devkyu 03:38, 19 July 2012 (CDT)
 * I agree, those pages need an overhaul. They should have an Appearances section much like the Digimon pages, so the page gets much clearer and video game appearances can be easily incorporated, too (Daimon Masaru already uses such structure). The Image Gallery would serve exactly the same function as on Digimon pages. --Grandy02 11:13, 24 July 2012 (CDT)

I've created a template that is already used on various pages. While it is not comparable to the Digimon template, it is better than nothing for a start. What do you think? --Grandy02 15:20, 25 August 2012 (CDT)
 * Looking great so far! Definitely an improvement to the table we've been using.--devkyu 16:00, 25 August 2012 (CDT)
 * Thanks! :-) --Grandy02 13:17, 26 August 2012 (CDT)

We should throw in a character design (looks), trivia, and personality sub areas if at all possible. And maybe a collapsible image gallery that is closed by default. Most wikis have stuff like that for characters. --Daisuke Motomiya 13:19, 4 September 2012 (CDT)
 * I like the idea of the collapsible image gallery, but more or less for the Digimon pages too. At least as far as Adventure 02 goes, I have a bunch of the line art books, which I can (eventually) finish scanning in and add to the character pages. And I know we have something akin to trivia and character design for Alice. There is probably quite a bit more info in the Digimon Memorial Chronicle book. I can scan those in once I get it. --devkyu 16:15, 28 September 2012 (CDT)