Talk:Bagramon

What is the source for this spelling?KrytenKoro06 05:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Although this seems to suggest "Bagra", the Toei website appears to be hinting that "Bagramon" may begin with "V" judging the army name categorization. (Vagramon???). --Ainz ( talk 05:54, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay, I see. Well, hopefully Bagra/Bagura/Vagra/Bugra/mon shows up in the Dictionary soon.KrytenKoro06 06:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

IDEA:

Gabriel, angel of death over kings.

Take out the "-el" (of God), mix it around a bit, and you can get near Bagura.

Especially the "kings" bit would fit with him being an emperor, plotting to conquer the Digital World (and all aspiring Kings like Shoutmon).

EDIT: "Enoch 20:7 says that Gabriel presides over "Ikisat" ([b]the fiery serpents[/b]) or Seraphim, Cherubim, and paradise, while Enoch 40:9 states that Gabriel presides over "all that is powerful." Gabriel sits on the left hand of God with Metatron."

Given that, and that "Gabrael" is a common enough spelling of the name, that he's the "death of kings", AND that demonology often uses scrambled or reversed names, I am 90% confident that Baguramon is meant to be a fallen Archangel Gabriel.

...You know, he kinda looks like the bastard child of Mum Ra from Thunder Cats and Beast Man from Masters of the Universe --devkyu 05:46, 21 December 2010 (CST)


 * Theory for a possible etymology: バグ (bagu) + 羅 (ra). Bagu from "bug", as in "computer bug". Ra is frequently used as a suffix and means "covering" or "encompassing", often to refer to something that spreads out and covers everything, like forests, nets, empires, or god. Suzaku 21:52, 18 April 2011 (CDT)
 * Seems a bit "compositey" for something that, based on its type, has a mythological background. Plus, you'd think its romanized name would be Bugramon, rather than Bagramon.KrytenKoro06 23:23, 18 April 2011 (CDT)
 * Also: バグラー is "Burgler", which fits in with Bagramon stealing souls.KrytenKoro06 01:44, 8 June 2011 (CDT)
 * Makes a lot more sense than anything else so far!--devkyu 03:32, 8 June 2011 (CDT)
 * There is apparently a demon named "Agramon", who is also called the "Demon of Fear", just trying to find out what works it's mentioned in. --Ainz ( talk 14:18, 17 November 2015 (CST)
 * Here for Agra. For Agramon, that appears to be a creation of City of Ashes.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 15:35, 17 November 2015 (CST)
 * Other suggestions: Baugi, Bragi, Blóðughadda, Vargr, Bagri Maro, mud.
 * Also, "万軍乱" (Bangunran), with all the n removed.KrytenKoro06 (talk) 12:50, 20 November 2015 (CST)

Kosuka...
If the spelling in the asahi profile isn't a typo, it might be a reference to "sly" (kosukara), so "Sly-Scarlet Blood Wine".KrytenKoro06 23:45, 25 December 2010 (CST)